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You can forget about the English Riviera reputation, the award winning beaches and the stunning New Forest National Park, because according to this year's Rough Guide to England, Bournemouth is little more than "the nucleus of a vast monotonous conurbation from Lymington to Poole".
This was one of many unsavoury pictures that the travel guide painted, which also described the English as "a nation of overweight, binge-drinking, reality TV addicts, obsessed with toffs and C-list celebs."
Unsurprisingly the guide's comments have been met with fury, particularly from Bournemouth Tourism.
"The statement by the Rough Guide claiming Bournemouth is the nucleus of a monotonous conurbation between Lymington and Poole' makes it clear that this section of the guide has been written with limited information and research," explains Mark Smith, Head of Tourism. "The area described covers over 30 miles including award-winning Christchurch and the New Forest National Park, an area of history, culture and activity."
The guide's slurs about one of the most popular seaside resorts in the UK come just weeks after Coast Magazine bestowed Bournemouth with an award for having the best beach in the UK and designated Christchurch as the UK's best coastal town in which to live.
"The researchers of other, less sensational, national publications have come to quite different conclusions about the delights of the area," says Mark.
The cheerless portrait of Bournemouth also seems to be contradicted by recent tourism figures.
"Bournemouth itself is a year-round destination, enjoyed by over 5.2 million annual visitors with more than 10 million visitors to the wider area," explains Mark.
"The high levels of repeat visits and growing business is evidence that the holiday makers and day visitors enjoy their time and their experience of this beautiful region. They find the variety and depth of natural and built attractions are sufficiently appealing to make this one of Britain's favourite destinations - indeed a complete contrast to the "monotonous conurbations" that most visitors want to leave behind."
Despite Rough Guide's negative comments, the authors did have some redeeming remarks about Bournemouth.
"Bournemouth is renowned for its clean, sandy beaches," it briefly details, before handing out the somewhat backhanded compliment that "The most enthralling experience in Bournemouth is one of the region's best collections of Victoriana, the excellent Russell-Cotes Art Gallery and Museum".
Bournemouth Tourism board is now inviting the author to come and have a better look at the town.
"As it seems unlikely that the author has actually seen the whole area described in the travel guide, Bournemouth Tourism has already invited the Rough Guide to take a more thorough look at the features that make this area one of Britain's most popular and successful destinations," said Mark.
7:00pm Friday 9th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: beachhut, southbourne on 7:21pm Fri 9 May 08
If you were to drive from Lymington to Christchurch, you would find open areas, but once passed Christchurch and on through to Poole he has it spot on. I am sure Bournemouth Tourism keep an award in there bottom draw to bring out as proof that Bournemouth is a "Must see before I die" kind of resort, when infact most of the recent tourist ( that boost the numbers)are here for stag or clubbing weekends and are usually to bladdered to notice the town or its beach, apart from sleeping on it or sh....g on it, or tipping rubbish on it, or leaving evidence of sharps to enhance thier view of the resort. What ever survey has been carried out Bournemouth Tourism are like the "Stepford Wives" you can never, ever give an account of Bournemouth unless it's how they want us to see it, something rose and tinted springs to mind.Tourism should not be afraid to take them off and see it as we do, then we may get a resort to be proud of.
If you were to drive from Lymington to Christchurch, you would find open areas, but once passed Christchurch and on through to Poole he has it spot on. I am sure Bournemouth Tourism keep an award in there bottom draw to bring out as proof that Bournemouth is a "Must see before I die" kind of resort, when infact most of the recent tourist ( that boost the numbers)are here for stag or clubbing weekends and are usually to bladdered to notice the town or its beach, apart from sleeping on it or sh....g on it, or tipping rubbish on it, or leaving evidence of sharps to enhance thier view of the resort. What ever survey has been carried out Bournemouth Tourism are like the "Stepford Wives" you can never, ever give an account of Bournemouth unless it's how they want us to see it, something rose and tinted springs to mind.Tourism should not be afraid to take them off and see it as we do, then we may get a resort to be proud of.
Posted by: cheesedof, wimborne on 8:08pm Fri 9 May 08
Absolutely Spot on beachhut & Rough Guide any other comments would be porkies. The car parking charges alone keep my family well away.[bold]bold[/bold]
Absolutely Spot on beachhut & Rough Guide any other comments would be porkies. The car parking charges alone keep my family well away.
Posted by: Back Of The Net, Boscombe on 8:49pm Fri 9 May 08
[italic]described the English as "a nation of overweight, binge-drinking, reality TV addicts, obsessed with toffs and C-list celebs.[/italic]
I'd be interested to hear from anyone that disagrees with this worryingly accurate point.
described the English as "a nation of overweight, binge-drinking, reality TV addicts, obsessed with toffs and C-list celebs.
I'd be interested to hear from anyone that disagrees with this worryingly accurate point.
Posted by: Carl Barron, Dorset on 9:23pm Fri 9 May 08
[bold]Quote [/bold] According to this year's Rough Guide to England, Bournemouth is little more than "the nucleus of a vast monotonous conurbation from Lymington to Poole".
[bold]Reply [/bold] This is not only [bold]Rough[/bold] in it's information [bold]it's totally untrue[/bold] , as no one can possible say such a thing, if they have carried out [italic][bold]ANY research at all?[/bold][/italic]
Tell them to view [bold]'Dorset Visual Guide'[/bold] and then [bold]apologise[/bold] . Thier so called [bold]'Rough Guide'[/bold] isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
[bold]Copy paste[/bold] link below into browser:
http://dorsetvisualg
uide.co.uk/picture_g
allery.htm
Quote According to this year's Rough Guide to England, Bournemouth is little more than "the nucleus of a vast monotonous conurbation from Lymington to Poole".
Reply This is not only
Rough in it's information
it's totally untrue , as no one can possible say such a thing, if they have carried out
ANY research at all?
Tell them to view
'Dorset Visual Guide' and then
apologise . Thier so called
'Rough Guide' isn't worth the paper it's printed on.
Copy paste link below into browser:
http://dorsetvisualg
uide.co.uk/picture_g
allery.htm
Posted by: monkey10, uk on 12:59am Sat 10 May 08
What an oversight; did the Rough Guide fail to mention that of a Saturday night you can visit one of several strip joints in Bournemouth or the really attractive and highly successful Imax?
Perhaps it drew attention to the one thing that used to bring people to Bournemouth until teenage thugs put the frighteners on it - the summer fireworks on a Friday night.
I have lived in Bournemouth all my life but apart from the cinema and the beach there is absolutely nothing that attracts me into the town centre day or night...
What an oversight; did the Rough Guide fail to mention that of a Saturday night you can visit one of several strip joints in Bournemouth or the really attractive and highly successful Imax?
Perhaps it drew attention to the one thing that used to bring people to Bournemouth until teenage thugs put the frighteners on it - the summer fireworks on a Friday night.
I have lived in Bournemouth all my life but apart from the cinema and the beach there is absolutely nothing that attracts me into the town centre day or night...
Posted by: 2Much, New Forest on 4:39am Sat 10 May 08
Sorry. but this place doesn't float my boat!
We took our daughter and 3 pals to the cinema then after for a pizza hut...£90!!
A whole day's work, only to be ripped off with parking fees, extortionate cinema fees, terrible service and then on leaving pizza hut, be confronted with drunks (at 9pm)
Is it any worse than the most of the UK tho?
Sorry. but this place doesn't float my boat!
We took our daughter and 3 pals to the cinema then after for a pizza hut...£90!!
A whole day's work, only to be ripped off with parking fees, extortionate cinema fees, terrible service and then on leaving pizza hut, be confronted with drunks (at 9pm)
Is it any worse than the most of the UK tho?
Posted by: Roger, Bournemouth on 7:11am Sat 10 May 08
Sound like a fair comment on Bournemouth to me. OK it's got great beaches and walks. BUT what has the council has done with these great benifits? Bournemouth does not have a tourism
policy, it's car parking charges are designed to force away normal visitors and shoppers.
So what does the town have to offer that nature did not provide; drunks, clubs, a winter gardens car park and the imax. The town needs a major shakeup behaps this comment will start it.
Sound like a fair comment on Bournemouth to me. OK it's got great beaches and walks. BUT what has the council has done with these great benifits? Bournemouth does not have a tourism
policy, it's car parking charges are designed to force away normal visitors and shoppers.
So what does the town have to offer that nature did not provide; drunks, clubs, a winter gardens car park and the imax. The town needs a major shakeup behaps this comment will start it.
Posted by: colin.mc, newquay,cornwall on 10:29am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]Back Of The Net[/bold] wrote:
[italic]described the English as "a nation of overweight, binge-drinking, reality TV addicts, obsessed with toffs and C-list celebs.[/italic] I'd be interested to hear from anyone that disagrees with this worryingly accurate point.[/quote] I disagree with this point. I would say it is more the English media that is obsessed with reality TV & C-list celebs.
These days English people are more more like those whose comments you see on this forum, i.e. too ready to criticise anyone who is successful, too eager to knock people down, & moreover, constantly failing to recognise anything that is positive around them.
This 'rough guide' is what it says it is - a rough guide. Way off mark & inaccurate.
Bournemouth is a super town with on the whole great people.The local facilities are superb & although like anywhere in the UK there is room for improvement, it is an exciting, dynamic place to live & work.
The town's biggest downfall are its local 'critics', who with their short-sighted, narrow-mindedness don't do it any favours at all.Unfortunately,it is their loudest voices that are usually heard the most.
Stop knockin' Bournemouth!
Back Of The Net wrote:
described the English as "a nation of overweight, binge-drinking, reality TV addicts, obsessed with toffs and C-list celebs. I'd be interested to hear from anyone that disagrees with this worryingly accurate point.
I disagree with this point. I would say it is more the English media that is obsessed with reality TV & C-list celebs.
These days English people are more more like those whose comments you see on this forum, i.e. too ready to criticise anyone who is successful, too eager to knock people down, & moreover, constantly failing to recognise anything that is positive around them.
This 'rough guide' is what it says it is - a rough guide. Way off mark & inaccurate.
Bournemouth is a super town with on the whole great people.The local facilities are superb & although like anywhere in the UK there is room for improvement, it is an exciting, dynamic place to live & work.
The town's biggest downfall are its local 'critics', who with their short-sighted, narrow-mindedness don't do it any favours at all.Unfortunately,it is their loudest voices that are usually heard the most.
Stop knockin' Bournemouth!
Posted by: beachhut, southbourne on 11:10am Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]colin.mc[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Back Of The Net[/bold] wrote: [italic]described the English as "a nation of overweight, binge-drinking, reality TV addicts, obsessed with toffs and C-list celebs.[/italic] I'd be interested to hear from anyone that disagrees with this worryingly accurate point.[/quote] I disagree with this point. I would say it is more the English media that is obsessed with reality TV & C-list celebs. These days English people are more more like those whose comments you see on this forum, i.e. too ready to criticise anyone who is successful, too eager to knock people down, & moreover, constantly failing to recognise anything that is positive around them. This 'rough guide' is what it says it is - a rough guide. Way off mark & inaccurate. Bournemouth is a super town with on the whole great people.The local facilities are superb & although like anywhere in the UK there is room for improvement, it is an exciting, dynamic place to live & work. The town's biggest downfall are its local 'critics', who with their short-sighted, narrow-mindedness don't do it any favours at all.Unfortunately,it is their loudest voices that are usually heard the most. Stop knockin' Bournemouth! [/quote] Colin, your fired!!!
You either work for tourism or have only read the bumph sent out tourism, or your married to one. Bournemouth, Dynamic, your having a laugh sir.
We are not knocking our home town, we are trying to get someone to wake up and take onboard the critics comments, and not adopt an " Emperors New Clothes" attitude, we see it as it is on a daily basis. There are some very nice areas outside the centre of town, but once in the centre its a nightmare.
colin.mc wrote:
Back Of The Net wrote: described the English as "a nation of overweight, binge-drinking, reality TV addicts, obsessed with toffs and C-list celebs. I'd be interested to hear from anyone that disagrees with this worryingly accurate point.
I disagree with this point. I would say it is more the English media that is obsessed with reality TV & C-list celebs. These days English people are more more like those whose comments you see on this forum, i.e. too ready to criticise anyone who is successful, too eager to knock people down, & moreover, constantly failing to recognise anything that is positive around them. This 'rough guide' is what it says it is - a rough guide. Way off mark & inaccurate. Bournemouth is a super town with on the whole great people.The local facilities are superb & although like anywhere in the UK there is room for improvement, it is an exciting, dynamic place to live & work. The town's biggest downfall are its local 'critics', who with their short-sighted, narrow-mindedness don't do it any favours at all.Unfortunately,it is their loudest voices that are usually heard the most. Stop knockin' Bournemouth!
Colin, your fired!!!
You either work for tourism or have only read the bumph sent out tourism, or your married to one. Bournemouth, Dynamic, your having a laugh sir.
We are not knocking our home town, we are trying to get someone to wake up and take onboard the critics comments, and not adopt an " Emperors New Clothes" attitude, we see it as it is on a daily basis. There are some very nice areas outside the centre of town, but once in the centre its a nightmare.
Posted by: Carl Barron, Dorset on 7:27pm Sat 10 May 08
Posted by: colin.mc, newquay,cornwall on 10:29am today
[bold]Quote [/bold] like anywhere in the UK there is room for improvement, it is an exciting, dynamic place to live & work. The town's biggest downfall are its local 'critics',
[bold]Reply [/bold] Well said [bold]colin[/bold] .
Just take [bold]good look[/bold] at Bournemouth, with it's Beautiful Landscaped Gardens, lush lawns, Beautiful Flower Beds, Flowing Streams (to help cool the air on summers day), Music Band Stands, even large tents are erected in the height of summer to shelter from the Sun.
[bold]The young[/bold] of today don't know when their well off. As most don't even get up till 1 or 2 in the afternoon trying to get over the hangover from [bold]last nights Booze,[/bold] so of course they don't know what Bournemouth's got to offer [bold]apart from Club Life.[/bold]
Me and my pals used to meet many gorgeous girls in the Gardens and on the sea front, and were never short on dates.
But the Clubs to us [bold]were Taboo[/bold] as we didn't want to meet [bold]Drugged up, and Boozed up Flosses.[/bold]
Take a good look from link below of Bournemouth and its gardens.
http://dorsetvisualg
uide.co.uk/Bournemou
th_Picture_Gallery.h
tm
[italic]Well,[/italic] Am I Right, or am I wrong?
Posted by: colin.mc, newquay,cornwall on 10:29am today
Quote like anywhere in the UK there is room for improvement, it is an exciting, dynamic place to live & work. The town's biggest downfall are its local 'critics',
Reply Well said
colin .
Just take
good look at Bournemouth, with it's Beautiful Landscaped Gardens, lush lawns, Beautiful Flower Beds, Flowing Streams (to help cool the air on summers day), Music Band Stands, even large tents are erected in the height of summer to shelter from the Sun.
The young of today don't know when their well off. As most don't even get up till 1 or 2 in the afternoon trying to get over the hangover from
last nights Booze, so of course they don't know what Bournemouth's got to offer
apart from Club Life.
Me and my pals used to meet many gorgeous girls in the Gardens and on the sea front, and were never short on dates.
But the Clubs to us
were Taboo as we didn't want to meet
Drugged up, and Boozed up Flosses.
Take a good look from link below of Bournemouth and its gardens.
http://dorsetvisualg
uide.co.uk/Bournemou
th_Picture_Gallery.h
tm
Well, Am I Right, or am I wrong?
Posted by: beachhut, southbourne on 8:51pm Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]Carl Barron[/bold] wrote:
Posted by: colin.mc, newquay,cornwall on 10:29am today [bold]Quote [/bold] like anywhere in the UK there is room for improvement, it is an exciting, dynamic place to live & work. The town's biggest downfall are its local 'critics', [bold]Reply [/bold] Well said [bold]colin[/bold] . Just take [bold]good look[/bold] at Bournemouth, with it's Beautiful Landscaped Gardens, lush lawns, Beautiful Flower Beds, Flowing Streams (to help cool the air on summers day), Music Band Stands, even large tents are erected in the height of summer to shelter from the Sun. [bold]The young[/bold] of today don't know when their well off. As most don't even get up till 1 or 2 in the afternoon trying to get over the hangover from [bold]last nights Booze,[/bold] so of course they don't know what Bournemouth's got to offer [bold]apart from Club Life.[/bold] Me and my pals used to meet many gorgeous girls in the Gardens and on the sea front, and were never short on dates. But the Clubs to us [bold]were Taboo[/bold] as we didn't want to meet [bold]Drugged up, and Boozed up Flosses.[/bold] Take a good look from link below of Bournemouth and its gardens. http://dorsetvisualg uide.co.uk/Bournemou th_Picture_Gallery.h tm [italic]Well,[/italic] Am I Right, or am I wrong? [/quote] These are the reasons why Bournemouth is in the state its in, I can say no more, no direction, no idea, and a uniformed plan to do what???. Name one new developement that fits in with its surroundings and any area of Bournemouth which says this is what the towns all about, we have no wow factor, and before someone says it, more casinos and bars, restaurant etc will not make it special.
Carl Barron wrote:
Posted by: colin.mc, newquay,cornwall on 10:29am today Quote like anywhere in the UK there is room for improvement, it is an exciting, dynamic place to live & work. The town's biggest downfall are its local 'critics', Reply Well said colin . Just take good look at Bournemouth, with it's Beautiful Landscaped Gardens, lush lawns, Beautiful Flower Beds, Flowing Streams (to help cool the air on summers day), Music Band Stands, even large tents are erected in the height of summer to shelter from the Sun. The young of today don't know when their well off. As most don't even get up till 1 or 2 in the afternoon trying to get over the hangover from last nights Booze, so of course they don't know what Bournemouth's got to offer apart from Club Life. Me and my pals used to meet many gorgeous girls in the Gardens and on the sea front, and were never short on dates. But the Clubs to us were Taboo as we didn't want to meet Drugged up, and Boozed up Flosses. Take a good look from link below of Bournemouth and its gardens. http://dorsetvisualg uide.co.uk/Bournemou th_Picture_Gallery.h tm Well, Am I Right, or am I wrong?
These are the reasons why Bournemouth is in the state its in, I can say no more, no direction, no idea, and a uniformed plan to do what???. Name one new developement that fits in with its surroundings and any area of Bournemouth which says this is what the towns all about, we have no wow factor, and before someone says it, more casinos and bars, restaurant etc will not make it special.
Posted by: Derek Cox, Bournemouth on 9:30pm Sat 10 May 08
Well Rough Guide has got it right. WE've got nothing left to be proud about. Once we had two world famous orchestras; we had a mini Bond Street in Westover Road. Once there was an ice rink and swimming baths with diving boards. We had a choice of theatres - and the very best in entertainment - not the same old "That'll Be the Day" churned out season after season. People "dressed up" to go out for an evening and the town had style. All we have left are pubs, clubs and drunken yobs. We have stabbings,murder and street crime. Drugs and hooligans who have finally wiped the fireworks off the summer scene. Now the Council's increased parking fees will deter even locals from shopping in Westbourne where more and more shops are closing, or going to the Chines at £1.50 an hour. Who's going to spend a day on the beach at those rates? Everything about this town has been brought down to the lowest common denominator - we should hardly be surprised when what was once an award winning resort is criticised and crucified.
Well Rough Guide has got it right. WE've got nothing left to be proud about. Once we had two world famous orchestras; we had a mini Bond Street in Westover Road. Once there was an ice rink and swimming baths with diving boards. We had a choice of theatres - and the very best in entertainment - not the same old "That'll Be the Day" churned out season after season. People "dressed up" to go out for an evening and the town had style. All we have left are pubs, clubs and drunken yobs. We have stabbings,murder and street crime. Drugs and hooligans who have finally wiped the fireworks off the summer scene. Now the Council's increased parking fees will deter even locals from shopping in Westbourne where more and more shops are closing, or going to the Chines at £1.50 an hour. Who's going to spend a day on the beach at those rates? Everything about this town has been brought down to the lowest common denominator - we should hardly be surprised when what was once an award winning resort is criticised and crucified.
Posted by: Carl Barron, Dorset on 10:09pm Sat 10 May 08
Posted by: Derek Cox, Bournemouth on 9:30pm today
[bold]Quote [/bold] . Once we had two world famous orchestras; we had a mini Bond Street in Westover Road. Once there was an ice rink and swimming baths with diving boards. We had a choice of theatres - and the very best in entertainment - not the same old "That'll Be the Day" churned out season after season. People "dressed up" to go out for an evening and the town had style. All we have left are pubs, clubs and drunken yobs
[bold]Reply [/bold] Very well said [bold]Derek[/bold] ,
Based on your [bold]true statement[/bold] of fact as to the above. The Town Councilors [bold]have crippled Bournmouth[/bold] with there lack of foresight and [bold]extremly bad planning.[/bold]
The Pier Approach Baths could have been turned into an [bold]Olympic Style Swimming Pool[/bold] and incorperated could have been a [bold]New Olympic Style Skating Rink.[/bold] But [bold]NO[/bold] . We get the [bold]Eyesore Imax instead.[/bold]
Children, teenagers and thier requirements are almost always the very last consideration by Town planners.
I believe a lot of [bold]Crime is because both Teenagers and Children are not considered enough.[/bold]
Posted by: Derek Cox, Bournemouth on 9:30pm today
Quote . Once we had two world famous orchestras; we had a mini Bond Street in Westover Road. Once there was an ice rink and swimming baths with diving boards. We had a choice of theatres - and the very best in entertainment - not the same old "That'll Be the Day" churned out season after season. People "dressed up" to go out for an evening and the town had style. All we have left are pubs, clubs and drunken yobs
Reply Very well said
Derek ,
Based on your
true statement of fact as to the above. The Town Councilors
have crippled Bournmouth with there lack of foresight and
extremly bad planning.
The Pier Approach Baths could have been turned into an
Olympic Style Swimming Pool and incorperated could have been a
New Olympic Style Skating Rink. But
NO . We get the
Eyesore Imax instead.
Children, teenagers and thier requirements are almost always the very last consideration by Town planners.
I believe a lot of
Crime is because both Teenagers and Children are not considered enough.
Posted by: john, New Milton on 10:21pm Sat 10 May 08
To be honest, it may have caused upset but the truth is that it is more or less correct. The few green spots left are planned for building. The fields behind Bournemouth hospital for example will fill one of the final gaps there (good luck with the perfume of sewage works thos people that end up here). The only other green bit I pass on the way to Bournemouth is the flood plain of the avon. I am sure its only a matter of time until someone suggests dredging it and building here too. In-fill developments and gardens being built on are now the norm.
Message to the angry people - REALITY CHECK !
To be honest, it may have caused upset but the truth is that it is more or less correct. The few green spots left are planned for building. The fields behind Bournemouth hospital for example will fill one of the final gaps there (good luck with the perfume of sewage works thos people that end up here). The only other green bit I pass on the way to Bournemouth is the flood plain of the avon. I am sure its only a matter of time until someone suggests dredging it and building here too. In-fill developments and gardens being built on are now the norm.
Message to the angry people - REALITY CHECK !
Posted by: colin.mc, newquay,cornwall on 11:08pm Sat 10 May 08
[quote][bold]beachhut[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]colin.mc[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Back Of The Net[/bold] wrote: [italic]described the English as "a nation of overweight, binge-drinking, reality TV addicts, obsessed with toffs and C-list celebs.[/italic] I'd be interested to hear from anyone that disagrees with this worryingly accurate point.[/quote] I disagree with this point. I would say it is more the English media that is obsessed with reality TV & C-list celebs. These days English people are more more like those whose comments you see on this forum, i.e. too ready to criticise anyone who is successful, too eager to knock people down, & moreover, constantly failing to recognise anything that is positive around them. This 'rough guide' is what it says it is - a rough guide. Way off mark & inaccurate. Bournemouth is a super town with on the whole great people.The local facilities are superb & although like anywhere in the UK there is room for improvement, it is an exciting, dynamic place to live & work. The town's biggest downfall are its local 'critics', who with their short-sighted, narrow-mindedness don't do it any favours at all.Unfortunately,it is their loudest voices that are usually heard the most. Stop knockin' Bournemouth! [/quote] Colin, your fired!!! You either work for tourism or have only read the bumph sent out tourism, or your married to one. Bournemouth, Dynamic, your having a laugh sir. We are not knocking our home town, we are trying to get someone to wake up and take onboard the critics comments, and not adopt an " Emperors New Clothes" attitude, we see it as it is on a daily basis. There are some very nice areas outside the centre of town, but once in the centre its a nightmare. [/quote] No - I do not work for tourism & I have read a lot more than this 'Rough Guide' & all the other tourism guides. As i said, there is room for improvement but that is true of not just Bournemouth, but of probably every town in the UK.
The problem with Bournemouth is the attitude of some of its local people. Too eager too criticise, too slow to move with the times & too apathetic to do anything constructive in improving the town.
Everyone has the right & ability to make a change for the better, the problem is with Bournemouth, the locals don't recognise this. They woulf rather moan in each others' ears or waste columnn space in local newspapers.
It's a good job some of these locals do not live in less affluent parts of the UK - they wouldn't know what had hit 'em!
beachhut wrote:
colin.mc wrote: Back Of The Net wrote: described the English as "a nation of overweight, binge-drinking, reality TV addicts, obsessed with toffs and C-list celebs. I'd be interested to hear from anyone that disagrees with this worryingly accurate point.
I disagree with this point. I would say it is more the English media that is obsessed with reality TV & C-list celebs. These days English people are more more like those whose comments you see on this forum, i.e. too ready to criticise anyone who is successful, too eager to knock people down, & moreover, constantly failing to recognise anything that is positive around them. This 'rough guide' is what it says it is - a rough guide. Way off mark & inaccurate. Bournemouth is a super town with on the whole great people.The local facilities are superb & although like anywhere in the UK there is room for improvement, it is an exciting, dynamic place to live & work. The town's biggest downfall are its local 'critics', who with their short-sighted, narrow-mindedness don't do it any favours at all.Unfortunately,it is their loudest voices that are usually heard the most. Stop knockin' Bournemouth!
Colin, your fired!!! You either work for tourism or have only read the bumph sent out tourism, or your married to one. Bournemouth, Dynamic, your having a laugh sir. We are not knocking our home town, we are trying to get someone to wake up and take onboard the critics comments, and not adopt an " Emperors New Clothes" attitude, we see it as it is on a daily basis. There are some very nice areas outside the centre of town, but once in the centre its a nightmare.
No - I do not work for tourism & I have read a lot more than this 'Rough Guide' & all the other tourism guides. As i said, there is room for improvement but that is true of not just Bournemouth, but of probably every town in the UK.
The problem with Bournemouth is the attitude of some of its local people. Too eager too criticise, too slow to move with the times & too apathetic to do anything constructive in improving the town.
Everyone has the right & ability to make a change for the better, the problem is with Bournemouth, the locals don't recognise this. They woulf rather moan in each others' ears or waste columnn space in local newspapers.
It's a good job some of these locals do not live in less affluent parts of the UK - they wouldn't know what had hit 'em!
Posted by: jolliffe, canada on 11:58pm Sat 10 May 08
lets be honest,the hooligans have won!!
on this same page I read of a man battered by yobbos at 10:00pm, The UK has now become like north
america where towns and public transport are
turned over to criminals at sundown, On my last trip to the
UK my wife and I endured a terrible trip through an estate
in Poole when three early teens terrorised some ethnic passengers on the bus. Turn off your TV's, lock you cars and take back the
streets of Bournemouth and Poole
for the enjoyment of all
lets be honest,the hooligans have won!!
on this same page I read of a man battered by yobbos at 10:00pm, The UK has now become like north
america where towns and public transport are
turned over to criminals at sundown, On my last trip to the
UK my wife and I endured a terrible trip through an estate
in Poole when three early teens terrorised some ethnic passengers on the bus. Turn off your TV's, lock you cars and take back the
streets of Bournemouth and Poole
for the enjoyment of all
Posted by: 2Much, New Forest on 9:12am Sun 11 May 08
Considering the last few days headlines in the Echo..Pensioner beaten by thugs..bus routes stopped, even tho people like Jayteer paid for the pass a week before...father admits killing his baby...49 yr old bloke kills a widow...taxi driver going around assaulting women in his cab....Hmmm
This rough guide is actually been more than fair! lol
Considering the last few days headlines in the Echo..Pensioner beaten by thugs..bus routes stopped, even tho people like Jayteer paid for the pass a week before...father admits killing his baby...49 yr old bloke kills a widow...taxi driver going around assaulting women in his cab....Hmmm
This rough guide is actually been more than fair! lol
Posted by: Tricky Dicky, twixt here and where? on 9:28am Sun 11 May 08
Good points made here on this site.
My view of the area is that Bournemouth is culturally dehydrated!! One can only sit on a beach for so long or take in the views, and pay huge prices for parking and refreshments and dining out-- but the sleezey night time atmosphere and club life spilling onto the streets puts off the majority of responsible and intelligent decent people going to one of the rare exciting programnes on offer at the BIC or Pavillion. elderly people are fearful of venturing out now.
An olympic sized pool with diving boards, ice rink, skate parks etc, and close all the clubs would be a starter for ten for energetic healthy youngsters, and do attract some proper continental style cafes and promenading and keep some shops open much later in the summer, that way you avoid a vacuum, with one particular age group dominating what used to be a magnificent elegant town centre! A curfew on hooligans through out the connurbation would get everyone yelling human rights, but if you have a youth curfew, well then they will be their parents responsibility- you know the old fat drunk slobs watching TV or getting drunk in the pub!!
Good points made here on this site.
My view of the area is that Bournemouth is culturally dehydrated!! One can only sit on a beach for so long or take in the views, and pay huge prices for parking and refreshments and dining out-- but the sleezey night time atmosphere and club life spilling onto the streets puts off the majority of responsible and intelligent decent people going to one of the rare exciting programnes on offer at the BIC or Pavillion. elderly people are fearful of venturing out now.
An olympic sized pool with diving boards, ice rink, skate parks etc, and close all the clubs would be a starter for ten for energetic healthy youngsters, and do attract some proper continental style cafes and promenading and keep some shops open much later in the summer, that way you avoid a vacuum, with one particular age group dominating what used to be a magnificent elegant town centre! A curfew on hooligans through out the connurbation would get everyone yelling human rights, but if you have a youth curfew, well then they will be their parents responsibility- you know the old fat drunk slobs watching TV or getting drunk in the pub!!
Posted by: 2Much, New Forest on 10:08am Sun 11 May 08
[quote][bold]Tricky Dicky[/bold] wrote:
Good points made here on this site.
My view of the area is that Bournemouth is culturally dehydrated!! One can only sit on a beach for so long or take in the views, and pay huge prices for parking and refreshments and dining out-- but the sleezey night time atmosphere and club life spilling onto the streets puts off the majority of responsible and intelligent decent people going to one of the rare exciting programnes on offer at the BIC or Pavillion. elderly people are fearful of venturing out now.
An olympic sized pool with diving boards, ice rink, skate parks etc, and close all the clubs would be a starter for ten for energetic healthy youngsters, and do attract some proper continental style cafes and promenading and keep some shops open much later in the summer, that way you avoid a vacuum, with one particular age group dominating what used to be a magnificent elegant town centre! A curfew on hooligans through out the connurbation would get everyone yelling human rights, but if you have a youth curfew, well then they will be their parents responsibility- you know the old fat drunk slobs watching TV or getting drunk in the pub!![/quote] 100% on the nail!!
Tricky Dicky wrote:
Good points made here on this site.
My view of the area is that Bournemouth is culturally dehydrated!! One can only sit on a beach for so long or take in the views, and pay huge prices for parking and refreshments and dining out-- but the sleezey night time atmosphere and club life spilling onto the streets puts off the majority of responsible and intelligent decent people going to one of the rare exciting programnes on offer at the BIC or Pavillion. elderly people are fearful of venturing out now.
An olympic sized pool with diving boards, ice rink, skate parks etc, and close all the clubs would be a starter for ten for energetic healthy youngsters, and do attract some proper continental style cafes and promenading and keep some shops open much later in the summer, that way you avoid a vacuum, with one particular age group dominating what used to be a magnificent elegant town centre! A curfew on hooligans through out the connurbation would get everyone yelling human rights, but if you have a youth curfew, well then they will be their parents responsibility- you know the old fat drunk slobs watching TV or getting drunk in the pub!!
100% on the nail!!
Posted by: jolliffe, canada on 12:19pm Sun 11 May 08
wouldn't it be nice if these comments were
read by the local councils, licensing and
police authorities and
(I'm dreaming)some action taken
wouldn't it be nice if these comments were
read by the local councils, licensing and
police authorities and
(I'm dreaming)some action taken
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 12:31pm Sun 11 May 08
It is obviously noted that the person from Torquay is an occasional visitor to Bournemouth which means he does not really have a clue about what is going in our town, although many of you have tried to enlighten him.
If he were to look deeper he would find that our local authority have in the present and in the past taken away from the town the very things that use to bring visitors to Bournemouth. In its place they have allowed the very thing that keeps people away from Bournemouth.
I thought he would have had a good idea living in a similar town, and imagine what Torquay would be like if its amenities and visitor attractions were taken away.
The Rough guide depicted the town as most would see it, offers somethings but not everthing. And before our man in Torquay continues to tell us to get off our backsides and do something about it, I can assure him that myself and many others are doing something about it. But as he tried to get inside the heads of a council, they have a tendency to go deaf on election.
Bournemouth is a town that I have lived in, or been a part of for my whole life. I use to love the town and for what it was. It was fantastic to see the town centre bustling with visitors from April through to September/October, now one sees nothing like this at all. The days of when the gardens were packed, people having lunch and picnics on the greens, the band playing, kids paddling up and down the Bourne Stream. The beach packed as was the prom. All these things have gone, WHY, because there is nothing for anyone to do at the end of the day/evenings without becoming involved with the drunken fraternity in all corners of the town.
We the people of Bournemouth have not done this, but the people of Bournemouth who were elected with promises of getting things back, making a better Bournemouth. What have we had so far. NOTHING.
It is obviously noted that the person from Torquay is an occasional visitor to Bournemouth which means he does not really have a clue about what is going in our town, although many of you have tried to enlighten him.
If he were to look deeper he would find that our local authority have in the present and in the past taken away from the town the very things that use to bring visitors to Bournemouth. In its place they have allowed the very thing that keeps people away from Bournemouth.
I thought he would have had a good idea living in a similar town, and imagine what Torquay would be like if its amenities and visitor attractions were taken away.
The Rough guide depicted the town as most would see it, offers somethings but not everthing. And before our man in Torquay continues to tell us to get off our backsides and do something about it, I can assure him that myself and many others are doing something about it. But as he tried to get inside the heads of a council, they have a tendency to go deaf on election.
Bournemouth is a town that I have lived in, or been a part of for my whole life. I use to love the town and for what it was. It was fantastic to see the town centre bustling with visitors from April through to September/October, now one sees nothing like this at all. The days of when the gardens were packed, people having lunch and picnics on the greens, the band playing, kids paddling up and down the Bourne Stream. The beach packed as was the prom. All these things have gone, WHY, because there is nothing for anyone to do at the end of the day/evenings without becoming involved with the drunken fraternity in all corners of the town.
We the people of Bournemouth have not done this, but the people of Bournemouth who were elected with promises of getting things back, making a better Bournemouth. What have we had so far. NOTHING.
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