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Suspended driver to fight taxi law
A FURIOUS taxi driver has vowed to keep driving despite being suspended by Bournemouth council.
Frank Shaw is one of 101 cabbies due to receive letters today telling them they cannot work until they take a college course, said to improve public safety.
But the 67-year-old claims the course is "ridiculous" and "irrelevant" and intends to appeal to the courts.
"I have been doing this job for 25 years and I don't need a piece of paper to tell me I'm capable of doing it," he told the Daily Echo.
"Most of it is ridiculous and has nothing to do with what drivers do from day to day. I'm going to fight this to the end."
Bournemouth council's Licensing Board has insisted all the town's 1,056 taxi drivers take the BTEC course, which covers a variety of subjects including licensing
regulations, disability awareness, route planning and customer service.
But 101 have refused, saying instructions such as how to lift a box, how to greet passengers and advice on personal appearance are "patronising".
It is three years since cabbies were warned about the new rules and all were given a deadline of February 2008 to complete the course, which is free of charge.
At a meeting on Wednesday members of the Special Licensing Board voted to implement immediate suspension for the 101 who have failed to complete the course.
Chairman Stephen Chappell said: "This qualification is vital to ensure our drivers are of a high standard and residents and visitors receive the best possible service."
9:00pm Friday 21st March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Hannah, Bournemouth on 9:16pm Fri 21 Mar 08
To Frank Shaw
Good for you. I hope others have the sense to join you and confront the unreasonable Council. To 'suspend' your license and remove your livelihood on such a petty point as a shallow and inconsequential course is totally out of proportion. I would be surprised if a court did not support you.
But If you had to pay more, much more, for a licence without this idiot course (as you would be less ‘qualified‘) would you then feel inclined to do it, taking into consideration that it is free ?
To Frank Shaw
Good for you. I hope others have the sense to join you and confront the unreasonable Council. To 'suspend' your license and remove your livelihood on such a petty point as a shallow and inconsequential course is totally out of proportion. I would be surprised if a court did not support you.
But If you had to pay more, much more, for a licence without this idiot course (as you would be less ‘qualified‘) would you then feel inclined to do it, taking into consideration that it is free ?
Posted by: Nick, Bournemouth on 10:12pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Yes, good for you. You carry on speeding, stopping on Zig Zags at pedestrian crossings, parking in bus stops… etc,. etc. [bold]You have nothing more to learn. You know it all already![/bold]
I would love to know….
Do you only hold a car licence? Have you actually taken another test since passing your basic test of competence? Are you aware that the Highway Code has changed dramatically in the last 25 years?
No? Ah well, just like the majority of other Taxi drivers in this town then!
I apologise here to all the good Taxi drivers here, you are a dying breed.
Yes, good for you. You carry on speeding, stopping on Zig Zags at pedestrian crossings, parking in bus stops… etc,. etc.
You have nothing more to learn. You know it all already!
I would love to know….
Do you only hold a car licence? Have you actually taken another test since passing your basic test of competence? Are you aware that the Highway Code has changed dramatically in the last 25 years?
No? Ah well, just like the majority of other Taxi drivers in this town then!
I apologise here to all the good Taxi drivers here, you are a dying breed.
Posted by: bobo, winton on 10:22pm Fri 21 Mar 08
well done frank hope you beat these quango dictators its a shame the taxi association did not have your backbone and refused to take part in this farce. just how much public money has all this nonsense cost us? maybe enough to pay a councillor or three for a week. anyway frank good luck in court mate i for one am backing you against the brown envelope boys.
well done frank hope you beat these quango dictators its a shame the taxi association did not have your backbone and refused to take part in this farce. just how much public money has all this nonsense cost us? maybe enough to pay a councillor or three for a week. anyway frank good luck in court mate i for one am backing you against the brown envelope boys.
Posted by: bobo, winton on 10:33pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Dear Nick
I have known frank for twenty years mate he is about the safest driver there is the best but you do make a good point the public money wasted on this crazy course could have been better spent on advanced drivng courses for certain idiots who drive taxis badly.
Dear Nick
I have known frank for twenty years mate he is about the safest driver there is the best but you do make a good point the public money wasted on this crazy course could have been better spent on advanced drivng courses for certain idiots who drive taxis badly.
Posted by: Nick, Bournemouth on 11:28pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Before I left the army I enquired about getting a taxi licence in Germany. They have to do a full apprenticeship of 3 years with a state registered test after it. It cost about £2.000.00 to get a licence there.
This is more than just the “Knowledge Test” required in London. It includes customer satisfaction too.
Before I left the army I enquired about getting a taxi licence in Germany. They have to do a full apprenticeship of 3 years with a state registered test after it. It cost about £2.000.00 to get a licence there.
This is more than just the “Knowledge Test” required in London. It includes customer satisfaction too.
Posted by: bobo, winton on 11:46pm Fri 21 Mar 08
Nick
you sound like the type of decent chap we need to clean up our trade but its gonna take a lot more than a stupid btec like finding out how people who do not know the routes or speak english managed to pass the knowledge test
Nick
you sound like the type of decent chap we need to clean up our trade but its gonna take a lot more than a stupid btec like finding out how people who do not know the routes or speak english managed to pass the knowledge test
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 12:16am Sat 22 Mar 08
Dont support the taxi drivers of Bournemouth they are very rude and need this new test.
Dont support the taxi drivers of Bournemouth they are very rude and need this new test.
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 12:17am Sat 22 Mar 08
Dont support the taxi drivers of Bournemouth they are very rude and need this new test.
Dont support the taxi drivers of Bournemouth they are very rude and need this new test.
Posted by: jeff, bournemouth on 1:11am Sat 22 Mar 08
I haved lived in Bournemouth for 14 years and i find the salloon cars that alot to be desired much prefer the traditional black cabs and the dress code could be better please take pride in the service you pruvide.[quote]quote[/quote]
I haved lived in Bournemouth for 14 years and i find the salloon cars that alot to be desired much prefer the traditional black cabs and the dress code could be better please take pride in the service you pruvide.
quote
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 1:39am Sat 22 Mar 08
Whether any driver is against the course or not. If by decree of the Council Licencing Board who have said all drivers will do the test, then so be it. If any driver revokes this, then they are suspended. This means that their licence and badge are suspended. So even if they do continue driving, passengers be warned you will not be insured in this taxi, and it will be illegal for the driver to pick up, either in transit or at a rank.
Frank Shaw may very well be a good driver, and I believe he is but he does not show good driver attitude if he intends to drive unlicenced. Surely is it much simpler just to do the course, and get it over and done with.
Whether any driver is against the course or not. If by decree of the Council Licencing Board who have said all drivers will do the test, then so be it. If any driver revokes this, then they are suspended. This means that their licence and badge are suspended. So even if they do continue driving, passengers be warned you will not be insured in this taxi, and it will be illegal for the driver to pick up, either in transit or at a rank.
Frank Shaw may very well be a good driver, and I believe he is but he does not show good driver attitude if he intends to drive unlicenced. Surely is it much simpler just to do the course, and get it over and done with.
Posted by: bobo, winton on 7:49am Sat 22 Mar 08
Christopher sounds like a councillor,you know the ones who are world class at wasting public money and there is no bigger waste than this farcical btec it seems the EU is a licence to squander taxpayers cash
Christopher sounds like a councillor,you know the ones who are world class at wasting public money and there is no bigger waste than this farcical btec it seems the EU is a licence to squander taxpayers cash
Posted by: PokesdownMark, Pokesdown on 8:53am Sat 22 Mar 08
The councils aim to improve taxi service is a good one. But I'm not convinced that this one training course will make any difference at all.
I use (pre-booked) taxis about half a dozen times a month and am no longer amazed at the poor standard of driving shown by drivers. I would have thought the obvious thing to do would be to say that all drivers need to have passed either the RoSPA or IAM advanced driving test. Job done. No need for additional courses to be set-up with associated costs etc... And no excuses from the drivers about the course being of no value.
The councils aim to improve taxi service is a good one. But I'm not convinced that this one training course will make any difference at all.
I use (pre-booked) taxis about half a dozen times a month and am no longer amazed at the poor standard of driving shown by drivers. I would have thought the obvious thing to do would be to say that all drivers need to have passed either the RoSPA or IAM advanced driving test. Job done. No need for additional courses to be set-up with associated costs etc... And no excuses from the drivers about the course being of no value.
Posted by: 2Much, New Forest on 9:14am Sat 22 Mar 08
If you get a cab and the driver is rude/smells/whatever
..then you have the choice of complaining to the local licensing authority. If a cab cuts you up, or you see one driving dangerously, then take the license number of that cab..and complain. Of course cabbies have a bad name in driving, they always have had, but you can't tar all with the same brush.
Good for you Frank Shaw for putting your foot down...(excuse the pun!)
If you get a cab and the driver is rude/smells/whatever
..then you have the choice of complaining to the local licensing authority. If a cab cuts you up, or you see one driving dangerously, then take the license number of that cab..and complain. Of course cabbies have a bad name in driving, they always have had, but you can't tar all with the same brush.
Good for you Frank Shaw for putting your foot down...(excuse the pun!)
Posted by: bobo, winton on 9:40am Sat 22 Mar 08
a very good suggestion from PokesdownMark but you see those courses he suggests does not provide cash for the snouts in the trough at the council
a very good suggestion from PokesdownMark but you see those courses he suggests does not provide cash for the snouts in the trough at the council
Posted by: Jerry, poole, dorset on 10:38am Sat 22 Mar 08
This can happen in any profession. In catering, regardless of how many sandwiches you have prepared in the past, or how many cups of tea served in your roadside kiosk, Food Hygeine Certificates became compulsory.
With Councils "offering" courses, and also policing and regulating food preparers, peopel who have been doing the same job for many years suddenly hade to "qualify" or stop working. No if's or but's.
It happens in many professions, rules are changed, new qualifications and requirements take effect and, if you don't (or can't) comply, you either carry on before and face a penalty, or you change jobs.
At 67 Frank should be thinking of hanging up his professional keys and retiring gracefully. As for the other 100, it's simple. You either comply, or you look for another job!
This can happen in any profession. In catering, regardless of how many sandwiches you have prepared in the past, or how many cups of tea served in your roadside kiosk, Food Hygeine Certificates became compulsory.
With Councils "offering" courses, and also policing and regulating food preparers, peopel who have been doing the same job for many years suddenly hade to "qualify" or stop working. No if's or but's.
It happens in many professions, rules are changed, new qualifications and requirements take effect and, if you don't (or can't) comply, you either carry on before and face a penalty, or you change jobs.
At 67 Frank should be thinking of hanging up his professional keys and retiring gracefully. As for the other 100, it's simple. You either comply, or you look for another job!
Posted by: Jerry, poole, dorset on 10:44am Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]PokesdownMark[/bold] wrote:
The councils aim to improve taxi service is a good one. But I'm not convinced that this one training course will make any difference at all. I use (pre-booked) taxis about half a dozen times a month and am no longer amazed at the poor standard of driving shown by drivers. I would have thought the obvious thing to do would be to say that all drivers need to have passed either the RoSPA or IAM advanced driving test. Job done. No need for additional courses to be set-up with associated costs etc... And no excuses from the drivers about the course being of no value. [/quote] The problem here is the cost. The Council is offering a course that is FREE to drivers. It is a Nationally recognised BTEC and is all that the Council is asking of them. (apart from a short spell off the road).
IAM and ROSPA costs money, needs a lot of time off the road to complete the courses, and on-going costs to renew your membership of these organisations in order to carry their "good driver" plate on the car. These courses do not conet customer care and courtesy, which appears to be the main thing lacking with todays taxi drivers.
PokesdownMark wrote:
The councils aim to improve taxi service is a good one. But I'm not convinced that this one training course will make any difference at all. I use (pre-booked) taxis about half a dozen times a month and am no longer amazed at the poor standard of driving shown by drivers. I would have thought the obvious thing to do would be to say that all drivers need to have passed either the RoSPA or IAM advanced driving test. Job done. No need for additional courses to be set-up with associated costs etc... And no excuses from the drivers about the course being of no value.
The problem here is the cost. The Council is offering a course that is FREE to drivers. It is a Nationally recognised BTEC and is all that the Council is asking of them. (apart from a short spell off the road).
IAM and ROSPA costs money, needs a lot of time off the road to complete the courses, and on-going costs to renew your membership of these organisations in order to carry their "good driver" plate on the car. These courses do not conet customer care and courtesy, which appears to be the main thing lacking with todays taxi drivers.
Posted by: Jerry, poole, dorset on 10:52am Sat 22 Mar 08
Sorry: "These courses do not [bold]COVER[/bold] customer care"
Sorry: "These courses do not
COVER customer care"
Posted by: sandram, Poole on 10:54am Sat 22 Mar 08
Another stupid red tape law from the council as if we havn't got enough. Do Bus Drivers have to take this course also
Another stupid red tape law from the council as if we havn't got enough. Do Bus Drivers have to take this course also
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 10:57am Sat 22 Mar 08
GOOD ON YOU FRANK!
LIKE MOST CAB DRIVERS YOU SEEM TO THINK THAT ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE ON THE ROAD ARE AN INCONVENIENCE.
I MEAN IF YOUR LICENCE IS SUSPENDED WHO CARES?
UNLESS OF COURSE YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND SOMEONE GETS HURT.
WITH NO LICENECE YOU HAVE NO INSURANCE, BUT WHO CARES?
IT IS ABOUT TIME YOU RETIRED.
AT YOUR AGE YOU REALLY SHOULD KNOW BETTER!
GOOD ON YOU FRANK!
LIKE MOST CAB DRIVERS YOU SEEM TO THINK THAT ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE ON THE ROAD ARE AN INCONVENIENCE.
I MEAN IF YOUR LICENCE IS SUSPENDED WHO CARES?
UNLESS OF COURSE YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND SOMEONE GETS HURT.
WITH NO LICENECE YOU HAVE NO INSURANCE, BUT WHO CARES?
IT IS ABOUT TIME YOU RETIRED.
AT YOUR AGE YOU REALLY SHOULD KNOW BETTER!
Posted by: bobo, winton on 11:00am Sat 22 Mar 08
The btec is not free it is paid for by the always clobbered taxpayer and feeds the snouts in the trough at the town hall
The btec is not free it is paid for by the always clobbered taxpayer and feeds the snouts in the trough at the town hall
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 11:06am Sat 22 Mar 08
LICENSE: SEE FRANK I AM IN MY 60s. I ADMIT THAT I AM NOT AS GOOD AS I WAS 25 YEARS AGO!
I AM STILL A "HUNK" HOWEVER, JUST ASK MY WIFE!
LICENSE: SEE FRANK I AM IN MY 60s. I ADMIT THAT I AM NOT AS GOOD AS I WAS 25 YEARS AGO!
I AM STILL A "HUNK" HOWEVER, JUST ASK MY WIFE!
Posted by: the owl, bere on 11:24am Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]mmmmmmmmmmmm[/bold] wrote:
Dont support the taxi drivers of Bournemouth they are very rude and need this new test.[/quote] Not all of them are rude probarly only the odd few, its their diet that I find offensive some of them seem to survive on nothing more than hannah kebabs and garlic filled sandwiches this is the reason for the stench,
I have never met a rude taxi driver also I never met one who did not have B O, then again it don't smell any worse than a fart in a greenhouse.
mmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
Dont support the taxi drivers of Bournemouth they are very rude and need this new test.
Not all of them are rude probarly only the odd few, its their diet that I find offensive some of them seem to survive on nothing more than hannah kebabs and garlic filled sandwiches this is the reason for the stench,
I have never met a rude taxi driver also I never met one who did not have B O, then again it don't smell any worse than a fart in a greenhouse.
Posted by: Mum of three, Bournemouth on 11:30am Sat 22 Mar 08
Why dont the taxi drivers just do the course instead of trying to prove a point?..Ok it is probably a waste of time and a waste of tax payers money but if it means they can keep their license then just get it over with. We all have to do things we dont want to do sometimes in life.
Why dont the taxi drivers just do the course instead of trying to prove a point?..Ok it is probably a waste of time and a waste of tax payers money but if it means they can keep their license then just get it over with. We all have to do things we dont want to do sometimes in life.
Posted by: bobo, winton on 11:36am Sat 22 Mar 08
HEY LAURIE
I THINK ALL THAT HOT SUN AND FOSTERS HAS GONE TO YOUR HEAD MATE
JUST PUT ANOTHER WALLABEE ON THE BARBY
AND BE GRATEFUL YOU ARENOT SIGNED UP TO THE LISBON TREATY
HEY LAURIE
I THINK ALL THAT HOT SUN AND FOSTERS HAS GONE TO YOUR HEAD MATE
JUST PUT ANOTHER WALLABEE ON THE BARBY
AND BE GRATEFUL YOU ARENOT SIGNED UP TO THE LISBON TREATY
Posted by: Hannah, Bournemouth on 11:43am Sat 22 Mar 08
laurie marsh, australia on 11:06am today
What an abusive and mindless rant. You should be [bold]ashamed[/bold] of yourself putting on such a pitiful comment. And what is the upper case text for !! As Frank is appealing against the suspension as far as I am aware he is still licensed.
Are you an ex-council employee, early retired to Australia on your fat golden pension, by any chance !
By the way, the taxi driver’s course is not ‘free‘. It is paid for by the council tax payers - that is myself and others here. I never agreed to this and I suspect that the course was very expensive indeed. Good old council - throwing our money around for us. How would we spend all our money if the council didn’t take it off us and spent it for us.
Another point, the present situation is a direct result of deregulation by Thatcherism. Perhaps the situation as described by ‘[bold]Nick, Bournemouth on 11:28pm Fri 21 Mar 08[/bold] ’ in Germany is the way ahead for us.
laurie marsh, australia on 11:06am today
What an abusive and mindless rant. You should be
ashamed of yourself putting on such a pitiful comment. And what is the upper case text for !! As Frank is appealing against the suspension as far as I am aware he is still licensed.
Are you an ex-council employee, early retired to Australia on your fat golden pension, by any chance !
By the way, the taxi driver’s course is not ‘free‘. It is paid for by the council tax payers - that is myself and others here. I never agreed to this and I suspect that the course was very expensive indeed. Good old council - throwing our money around for us. How would we spend all our money if the council didn’t take it off us and spent it for us.
Another point, the present situation is a direct result of deregulation by Thatcherism. Perhaps the situation as described by ‘
Nick, Bournemouth on 11:28pm Fri 21 Mar 08 ’ in Germany is the way ahead for us.
Posted by: Hannah, Bournemouth on 11:47am Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Nick[/bold] wrote:
Before I left the army I enquired about getting a taxi licence in Germany. They have to do a full apprenticeship of 3 years with a state registered test after it. It cost about £2.000.00 to get a licence there. This is more than just the “Knowledge Test” required in London. It includes customer satisfaction too. [/quote] [bold]The way ahead for us ?[/bold]
Nick wrote:
Before I left the army I enquired about getting a taxi licence in Germany. They have to do a full apprenticeship of 3 years with a state registered test after it. It cost about £2.000.00 to get a licence there. This is more than just the “Knowledge Test” required in London. It includes customer satisfaction too.
The way ahead for us ? Posted by: Hannah, Bournemouth on 11:49am Sat 22 Mar 08
laurie marsh, australia on 11:06am today
What an abusive and mindless rant. You should be [bold]ashamed[/bold] of yourself putting on such a pitiful comment. And what is the upper case text for !! As Frank is appealing against the suspension as far as I am aware he is still licensed.
Are you an ex-council employee, early retired to Australia on your fat golden pension, by any chance !
By the way, the taxi driver’s course is not ‘free‘. It is paid for by the council tax payers - that is myself and others here. I never agreed to this and I suspect that the course was very expensive indeed. Good old council - throwing our money around for us. How would we spend all our money if the council didn’t take it off us and spent it for us.
Another point, the present situation is a direct result of deregulation by Thatcherism. Perhaps the situation as described by ‘[bold]Nick, Bournemouth on 11:28pm Fri 21 Mar 08[/bold] ’ in Germany is the way ahead for us.
laurie marsh, australia on 11:06am today
What an abusive and mindless rant. You should be
ashamed of yourself putting on such a pitiful comment. And what is the upper case text for !! As Frank is appealing against the suspension as far as I am aware he is still licensed.
Are you an ex-council employee, early retired to Australia on your fat golden pension, by any chance !
By the way, the taxi driver’s course is not ‘free‘. It is paid for by the council tax payers - that is myself and others here. I never agreed to this and I suspect that the course was very expensive indeed. Good old council - throwing our money around for us. How would we spend all our money if the council didn’t take it off us and spent it for us.
Another point, the present situation is a direct result of deregulation by Thatcherism. Perhaps the situation as described by ‘
Nick, Bournemouth on 11:28pm Fri 21 Mar 08 ’ in Germany is the way ahead for us.
Posted by: Hannah, Bournemouth on 11:50am Sat 22 Mar 08
How did [bold]that[/bold] happen!
Posted by: bobo, winton on 11:52am Sat 22 Mar 08
my granny wants to know if the EU can fund an egg sucking course at Poole college
my granny wants to know if the EU can fund an egg sucking course at Poole college
Posted by: John, Poole on 12:04pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]bobo[/bold] wrote:
my granny wants to know if the EU can fund an egg sucking course at Poole college[/quote] Not if your granny is 67 year old, Mrs Shaw. Only a yoke!
bobo wrote:
my granny wants to know if the EU can fund an egg sucking course at Poole college
Not if your granny is 67 year old, Mrs Shaw. Only a yoke!
Posted by: bobo, winton on 12:15pm Sat 22 Mar 08
just seen RONALDO score again for UNITED now theres a good egg
just seen RONALDO score again for UNITED now theres a good egg
Posted by: John, Poole on 12:50pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Eggsiting stuff for Easter!
Eggsiting stuff for Easter!
Posted by: bobo, winton on 1:12pm Sat 22 Mar 08
have to go to work now to make eggstra money to pay all the eggspenses on my taxi
have to go to work now to make eggstra money to pay all the eggspenses on my taxi
Posted by: John, Poole on 1:22pm Sat 22 Mar 08
bobo
How about eggstending your knowledge with a BTEC (Bournemouth Taxidrivers' Enlightenment Course)?
bobo
How about eggstending your knowledge with a BTEC (Bournemouth Taxidrivers' Enlightenment Course)?
Posted by: bobo, winton on 1:29pm Sat 22 Mar 08
would this have EggU funding under the eggciting lisbon treaty
would this have EggU funding under the eggciting lisbon treaty
Posted by: John, Poole on 1:38pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Like 99.9% of the population, I have not read the Lisbon Treaty, so I do not know the answer to that. However, I shall not just be believing what the Daily Eggspress tells me!
Like 99.9% of the population, I have not read the Lisbon Treaty, so I do not know the answer to that. However, I shall not just be believing what the Daily Eggspress tells me!
Posted by: bobo, winton on 2:04pm Sat 22 Mar 08
well there's egg on your face as we,re gonna be handing money out to all sorts of crazy eggsperiments like this obscene taxi btec
well there's egg on your face as we,re gonna be handing money out to all sorts of crazy eggsperiments like this obscene taxi btec
Posted by: Ashley Miller, Bournemouth on 2:31pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Sorry but I did not want to post on here after Hannahs unfounded ramblings on the original 101 cabbies off the road but feel I have to as just about everything about her posts on the Taxi trade are totally unfounded & with communist views.
Firstly, the Bournemouth Taxi (Hackney Carriage) trade is NOT deregulated as she says (one of the last British bastions that are not), get your facts right before spouting off!
Secondly, she seems to know everything there is too know about this Btec course & its follow up the NVQ level 2. Even I do not know it all as I am sitting my NVQ2 at the moment having already passed my Btec qualification over 3 years ago & I am the Chairman of the trade! The reason I WANT TO (& nothing to do with the Council) is relevant laws, proceedures, etc change & it is my wish to keep abreast of matters & offer my customers the best possible professional service that I can.
Thirdly, how many disabled people are there living in this connurbation? Do you know Hannah? You seem to know most things! Well I certainly do not & nor does anyone else. Each passenger that gets into a cab could be disabled, no not in a wheelchair which 95% of people seem to wrongly assume means disabled but there are visually impaired disabilities, deafness, autism, epilepsy, diabetes, etc, far too many to mention & we the drivers have to deal with many situations arising from the above, so a little bit of training can save someones life who knows Hannah IT COULD BE YOURS ONE DAY but there again if the driver is not trained you could be in trouble.
I now know you will post back how rude I am, bad mannered, etc but I don't care for people ignorant of the facts. This course does not cost US the tax payers a bleeding penny. It is European funded because (wait for it Comrade Hannah) it is the European Union that wishes ALL Taxi & Private Hire drivers to take up the offer of a "Free" course before it becomes mandatory. THAT is why Bournemouth Council have persuaded us drivers (& Poole cabbies have been taking this course for nearly 3 years as well but I don't hear you mentioning anything about them taking it - oh sorry you didn't know?) to take up the offer of free places over the past 3 years.
Anyone not wishing to has their right which Frank Shaw is doing but having been at last wednesdays Licensing Board meeting representing the Taxi Trade I heard from the legal team that the council have sewn up ALL loop holes on this issue & are expecting appeals against their decision & have the neccessary legal documentations in place to win any appeal. My heart goes out to Frank because I have known him for many years & he is one of the better, kinder & safer drivers who I have ever met in the trade & I do genuinely feel that the Taxi Trade will be losing a very good ambassador.
By the way Hannah, I can arrange anytime you like for you to go on this course but beforehand I will give you a mock exam to see what you really DON'T know about my trade.
Sorry but I did not want to post on here after Hannahs unfounded ramblings on the original 101 cabbies off the road but feel I have to as just about everything about her posts on the Taxi trade are totally unfounded & with communist views.
Firstly, the Bournemouth Taxi (Hackney Carriage) trade is NOT deregulated as she says (one of the last British bastions that are not), get your facts right before spouting off!
Secondly, she seems to know everything there is too know about this Btec course & its follow up the NVQ level 2. Even I do not know it all as I am sitting my NVQ2 at the moment having already passed my Btec qualification over 3 years ago & I am the Chairman of the trade! The reason I WANT TO (& nothing to do with the Council) is relevant laws, proceedures, etc change & it is my wish to keep abreast of matters & offer my customers the best possible professional service that I can.
Thirdly, how many disabled people are there living in this connurbation? Do you know Hannah? You seem to know most things! Well I certainly do not & nor does anyone else. Each passenger that gets into a cab could be disabled, no not in a wheelchair which 95% of people seem to wrongly assume means disabled but there are visually impaired disabilities, deafness, autism, epilepsy, diabetes, etc, far too many to mention & we the drivers have to deal with many situations arising from the above, so a little bit of training can save someones life who knows Hannah IT COULD BE YOURS ONE DAY but there again if the driver is not trained you could be in trouble.
I now know you will post back how rude I am, bad mannered, etc but I don't care for people ignorant of the facts. This course does not cost US the tax payers a bleeding penny. It is European funded because (wait for it Comrade Hannah) it is the European Union that wishes ALL Taxi & Private Hire drivers to take up the offer of a "Free" course before it becomes mandatory. THAT is why Bournemouth Council have persuaded us drivers (& Poole cabbies have been taking this course for nearly 3 years as well but I don't hear you mentioning anything about them taking it - oh sorry you didn't know?) to take up the offer of free places over the past 3 years.
Anyone not wishing to has their right which Frank Shaw is doing but having been at last wednesdays Licensing Board meeting representing the Taxi Trade I heard from the legal team that the council have sewn up ALL loop holes on this issue & are expecting appeals against their decision & have the neccessary legal documentations in place to win any appeal. My heart goes out to Frank because I have known him for many years & he is one of the better, kinder & safer drivers who I have ever met in the trade & I do genuinely feel that the Taxi Trade will be losing a very good ambassador.
By the way Hannah, I can arrange anytime you like for you to go on this course but beforehand I will give you a mock exam to see what you really DON'T know about my trade.
Posted by: Alan, Bournemouth on 2:46pm Sat 22 Mar 08
This is becoming typical of this council [bold]PC[/bold] almost to a man(or woman),[bold]bold[/bold] HOWEVER IT HAS BEEN MADE ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF HOLDING A LICENSE[bold]bold[/bold] not only that plenty of lead in has been given. i hope any drivers found breaking the law in this way are proscecuted to the full extent of the law. it is most common that the ones who say "I've been doing this for years, I dont need telling" are the very ones who caused this new regulation in the first place. 67 year old EX taxi driver
This is becoming typical of this council
PC almost to a man(or woman), HOWEVER IT HAS BEEN MADE ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF HOLDING A LICENSE not only that plenty of lead in has been given. i hope any drivers found breaking the law in this way are proscecuted to the full extent of the law. it is most common that the ones who say "I've been doing this for years, I dont need telling" are the very ones who caused this new regulation in the first place. 67 year old EX taxi driver
Posted by: bobo, winton on 2:57pm Sat 22 Mar 08
maybe frank could appeal to the eu human rights court of appeal but hey dont hold your breath as hes white working class and english
maybe frank could appeal to the eu human rights court of appeal but hey dont hold your breath as hes white working class and english
Posted by: John, Poole on 3:00pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Ashley Miller
Many thanks for the trouble you have taken to tell those that will listen the facts about this course and the background to it.You seem to be a credit to your trade.
Ashley Miller
Many thanks for the trouble you have taken to tell those that will listen the facts about this course and the background to it.You seem to be a credit to your trade.
Posted by: Ashley Miller, Bournemouth on 3:37pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]John[/bold] wrote:
Ashley Miller Many thanks for the trouble you have taken to tell those that will listen the facts about this course and the background to it.You seem to be a credit to your trade.[/quote] Thankyou John for your comment & very much appreciated. It makes it all seem worth while!
I just wish people who know nothing about a particular subject would listen & not pretend they do know all about it.
You would not see me post on a subject I do not know about because it would be wasting my time & fellow posters time as well.
You will have to excuse me but I've got a taxi to catch (with appropriate Btec qualification) to go to my "Brain surgery enhanced level 73 refresher class"!!!
P.S. You will probably now be on the Hannah Hit Squad list & will join me as being first up against the wall to be shot come the revolution!!!
John wrote:
Ashley Miller Many thanks for the trouble you have taken to tell those that will listen the facts about this course and the background to it.You seem to be a credit to your trade.
Thankyou John for your comment & very much appreciated. It makes it all seem worth while!
I just wish people who know nothing about a particular subject would listen & not pretend they do know all about it.
You would not see me post on a subject I do not know about because it would be wasting my time & fellow posters time as well.
You will have to excuse me but I've got a taxi to catch (with appropriate Btec qualification) to go to my "Brain surgery enhanced level 73 refresher class"!!!
P.S. You will probably now be on the Hannah Hit Squad list & will join me as being first up against the wall to be shot come the revolution!!!
Posted by: bobo, winton on 3:47pm Sat 22 Mar 08
theres a job waiting for you on the council ash then you can really shaft the otherr hacks
theres a job waiting for you on the council ash then you can really shaft the otherr hacks
Posted by: muffin the mule, wallisdown on 4:21pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Good driver ,nice bloke ,experienced taxi driver,thats as maybe - yes Frank ,but also a stuck in the past fool ,if you go up against the authorities you'll lose - big time .everyone else is biting the bullet and so must you .you will not be the exception and at your age people are not clambering over themselves to give you a job. so do the right thing for your own benefit and get it done ,its easy.... or its ancient B&Q 'advisor' for you,and a course comes with that job too.
Good driver ,nice bloke ,experienced taxi driver,thats as maybe - yes Frank ,but also a stuck in the past fool ,if you go up against the authorities you'll lose - big time .everyone else is biting the bullet and so must you .you will not be the exception and at your age people are not clambering over themselves to give you a job. so do the right thing for your own benefit and get it done ,its easy.... or its ancient B&Q 'advisor' for you,and a course comes with that job too.
Posted by: bobo, winton on 4:32pm Sat 22 Mar 08
yeh frank just let these guttersnipes walk all over you just like our parents and grandparents did in the wars just give in like the spineless ones
yeh frank just let these guttersnipes walk all over you just like our parents and grandparents did in the wars just give in like the spineless ones
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 4:54pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]bobo[/bold] wrote:
Christopher sounds like a councillor,you know the ones who are world class at wasting public money and there is no bigger waste than this farcical btec it seems the EU is a licence to squander taxpayers cash [/quote] Sorry Bobo, yet someone else who assumes.
I do not claim to be, and very doubtful if I would want to be. However, I do become concerned when policies that are made to enhance a service for the better inflicts such criticism as the likes of yourself and others have.
It must be said again. What ever job one takes now, because of the "keep your job scenario" everyone will do some sort of course to keep one updated with new policies, legislation, etc etc.
This will be the same whether you are a taxi driver, work for a supermarket chain, or working in big business in the cities.
It is called reviewing the work force.
Actually I might stand for Councillor now that there are some vacancies
bobo wrote:
Christopher sounds like a councillor,you know the ones who are world class at wasting public money and there is no bigger waste than this farcical btec it seems the EU is a licence to squander taxpayers cash
Sorry Bobo, yet someone else who assumes.
I do not claim to be, and very doubtful if I would want to be. However, I do become concerned when policies that are made to enhance a service for the better inflicts such criticism as the likes of yourself and others have.
It must be said again. What ever job one takes now, because of the "keep your job scenario" everyone will do some sort of course to keep one updated with new policies, legislation, etc etc.
This will be the same whether you are a taxi driver, work for a supermarket chain, or working in big business in the cities.
It is called reviewing the work force.
Actually I might stand for Councillor now that there are some vacancies
Posted by: muffin the mule, wallisdown on 4:58pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]bobo[/bold] wrote:
yeh frank just let these guttersnipes walk all over you just like our parents and grandparents did in the wars just give in like the spineless ones[/quote] when everyone else has complied with the requirement it leaves hm no alternative ,two things you have to preserve in life is 1 your income 2 the roof over your head. its nothing to do with being walked over ,you cant beat the system so go with it !!! its common sense - moan after your postition is secure
bobo wrote:
yeh frank just let these guttersnipes walk all over you just like our parents and grandparents did in the wars just give in like the spineless ones
when everyone else has complied with the requirement it leaves hm no alternative ,two things you have to preserve in life is 1 your income 2 the roof over your head. its nothing to do with being walked over ,you cant beat the system so go with it !!! its common sense - moan after your postition is secure
Posted by: Ashley Miller, Bournemouth on 5:59pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]bobo[/bold] wrote:
theres a job waiting for you on the council ash then you can really shaft the otherr hacks [/quote] Sorry bobo they don't pay enough & I can never see my self being a "Shiny arse", also I would have no one to argue with & be threatened with suspension!
Anyhow why would I want to shaft the other Hacks, I own most of them!!!
bobo wrote:
theres a job waiting for you on the council ash then you can really shaft the otherr hacks
Sorry bobo they don't pay enough & I can never see my self being a "Shiny arse", also I would have no one to argue with & be threatened with suspension!
Anyhow why would I want to shaft the other Hacks, I own most of them!!!
Posted by: Nick, Bournemouth on 6:41pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote]Ashley Miller, Bournemouth
Sorry but I did not want to post on here after Hannahs unfounded ramblings on the original 101 cabbies off the road but feel I have to as just about everything about her posts on the Taxi trade are totally unfounded & with communist views…..[/quote]
Possibly Marxist?
[quote]…..she seems to know everything there is too know about this Btec course & its follow up the NVQ level 2. Even I do not know it all as I am sitting my NVQ2 at the moment having already passed my Btec qualification over 3 years ago & I am the Chairman of the trade! The reason I WANT TO (& nothing to do with the Council) is relevant laws, proceedures, etc change & it is my wish to keep abreast of matters & offer my customers the best possible professional service that I can…….[/quote]
Be grateful. Other firms have to go down the ISO 9000 quality assurance route (old BSI 5750). This is more expensive than a Btec or NVQ!
[quote]Thirdly, how many disabled people are there living in this connurbation? Do you know Hannah? You seem to know most things! Well I certainly do not & nor does anyone else. Each passenger that gets into a cab could be disabled, no not in a wheelchair which 95% of people seem to wrongly assume means disabled but there are visually impaired disabilities, deafness, autism, epilepsy, diabetes, etc, far too many to mention & we the drivers have to deal with many situations arising from the above, so a little bit of training can save someones life who knows Hannah IT COULD BE YOURS ONE DAY but there again if the driver is not trained you could be in trouble.[/quote]
Yep I do! The amount of Taxis parked in “Ambulances Only” bays at RBH is incredible. It is hard to get a stretcher onto an Ambo when a Taxi parks behind you!
Ashley Miller, Bournemouth
Sorry but I did not want to post on here after Hannahs unfounded ramblings on the original 101 cabbies off the road but feel I have to as just about everything about her posts on the Taxi trade are totally unfounded & with communist views…..
Possibly Marxist?
…..she seems to know everything there is too know about this Btec course & its follow up the NVQ level 2. Even I do not know it all as I am sitting my NVQ2 at the moment having already passed my Btec qualification over 3 years ago & I am the Chairman of the trade! The reason I WANT TO (& nothing to do with the Council) is relevant laws, proceedures, etc change & it is my wish to keep abreast of matters & offer my customers the best possible professional service that I can…….
Be grateful. Other firms have to go down the ISO 9000 quality assurance route (old BSI 5750). This is more expensive than a Btec or NVQ!
Thirdly, how many disabled people are there living in this connurbation? Do you know Hannah? You seem to know most things! Well I certainly do not & nor does anyone else. Each passenger that gets into a cab could be disabled, no not in a wheelchair which 95% of people seem to wrongly assume means disabled but there are visually impaired disabilities, deafness, autism, epilepsy, diabetes, etc, far too many to mention & we the drivers have to deal with many situations arising from the above, so a little bit of training can save someones life who knows Hannah IT COULD BE YOURS ONE DAY but there again if the driver is not trained you could be in trouble.
Yep I do! The amount of Taxis parked in “Ambulances Only” bays at RBH is incredible. It is hard to get a stretcher onto an Ambo when a Taxi parks behind you!
Posted by: Ashley Miller, Bournemouth on 7:13pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Nick, if as you say a Taxi or Private Hire vehicle is parked in an Ambulance bay or hindering an Ambulance in any way, get straight (during opening hours) onto the Public Protection team at Bournemouth Borough Council by telephoning 01202 451180 quoting the Licesed Plate number (attached to rear of vehicle) & time of offence.
If outside of office of hours, take a note of the details & pass details at earliest availability to the Public Protection Office.
Hope that helps the situation Nick.
Nick, if as you say a Taxi or Private Hire vehicle is parked in an Ambulance bay or hindering an Ambulance in any way, get straight (during opening hours) onto the Public Protection team at Bournemouth Borough Council by telephoning 01202 451180 quoting the Licesed Plate number (attached to rear of vehicle) & time of offence.
If outside of office of hours, take a note of the details & pass details at earliest availability to the Public Protection Office.
Hope that helps the situation Nick.
Posted by: Nick, Bournemouth on 7:27pm Sat 22 Mar 08
I’m more a live and let live person.
I know they are trying to get close for their customers. I stopped reporting vehicles when I stopped being a Copper….
It just gets frustrating when my customers can’t walk!
I’m more a live and let live person.
I know they are trying to get close for their customers. I stopped reporting vehicles when I stopped being a Copper….
It just gets frustrating when my customers can’t walk!
Posted by: bobo, winton on 7:27pm Sat 22 Mar 08
so you own most of the
taxis as well as a monopoly on the temp plates watch out they may deregulate if you aint careful ashley
so you own most of the
taxis as well as a monopoly on the temp plates watch out they may deregulate if you aint careful ashley
Posted by: Anon, Bournemouth on 7:57pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.
Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.
Posted by: Boscombe Red, Bournemouth on 8:37pm Sat 22 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote:
Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.[/quote] Now this is a story thats interesting, please tell more
Anon wrote:
Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.
Now this is a story thats interesting, please tell more
Posted by: Hannah, Bournemouth on 8:53pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Ashley Miller, Bournemouth on 2:31pm today
Check your driving [bold]license[/bold] !
Your wild and exaggerated claims about me indicate that you are under a lot of pressure over this. I am sorry about that, but getting aggressive and indulging in rude and inaccurate replies just weakens your case.
No matter how supportive your mates are, the plain fact is that you are wrong in this particular matter, and depriving over a 100 people of their livelihoods because of a silly shallow course is out of all proportion. And I think that you know it which is why you are so angry.
If the people responsible for this get away with it, then the future looks grim for us all. Please confine yourself to the points I raise in future replies and argue the case without becoming so angry and personal.
It is not good for you, or the others, to get so worked up about these things. We’ll all be dead in a few decades anyway, so what does it really matter ?
Ashley Miller, Bournemouth on 2:31pm today
Check your driving
license !
Your wild and exaggerated claims about me indicate that you are under a lot of pressure over this. I am sorry about that, but getting aggressive and indulging in rude and inaccurate replies just weakens your case.
No matter how supportive your mates are, the plain fact is that you are wrong in this particular matter, and depriving over a 100 people of their livelihoods because of a silly shallow course is out of all proportion. And I think that you know it which is why you are so angry.
If the people responsible for this get away with it, then the future looks grim for us all. Please confine yourself to the points I raise in future replies and argue the case without becoming so angry and personal.
It is not good for you, or the others, to get so worked up about these things. We’ll all be dead in a few decades anyway, so what does it really matter ?
Posted by: Nick, Bournemouth on 10:03pm Sat 22 Mar 08
I think this is great.
[quote]Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.[/quote]
Oh please do not get me started!
I pity the bus drivers who have to take 70(ish) of the drunken so and so’s. A taxi driver only gets a few. I have seen 3 bus drivers unloading a wheelchair 5 ft from the curb because a taxi driver has parked in bus clearway. Personally I do not think you can get enough training, no matter what profession you are in.
Thank heavens the doctors (Surgeon Barbours) still do not bleed us to let the devils out ….
I think this is great.
Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.
Oh please do not get me started!
I pity the bus drivers who have to take 70(ish) of the drunken so and so’s. A taxi driver only gets a few. I have seen 3 bus drivers unloading a wheelchair 5 ft from the curb because a taxi driver has parked in bus clearway. Personally I do not think you can get enough training, no matter what profession you are in.
Thank heavens the doctors (Surgeon Barbours) still do not bleed us to let the devils out ….
Posted by: Nick, Bournemouth on 10:09pm Sat 22 Mar 08
By the way. This is a comments. To chat try the Forum.
By the way. This is a comments. To chat try the Forum.
Posted by: bobo, winton on 10:20pm Sat 22 Mar 08
hey nick
who picks up the drunken scum after midnight when the bus drivers are tucked up safely in bed?
hey nick
who picks up the drunken scum after midnight when the bus drivers are tucked up safely in bed?
Posted by: Nick, Bournemouth on 10:26pm Sat 22 Mar 08
The bus drivers who work until 02.30hrs of course. Wilts and Dorset are thinking about 24hr bus services on the More route.
This could put a lot of Taxi Driver out of business.
The bus drivers who work until 02.30hrs of course. Wilts and Dorset are thinking about 24hr bus services on the More route.
This could put a lot of Taxi Driver out of business.
Posted by: bobo, winton on 10:40pm Sat 22 Mar 08
and you can ride shotgun for them in your ambulance presumably
and you can ride shotgun for them in your ambulance presumably
Posted by: Nick, Bournemouth on 10:53pm Sat 22 Mar 08
No, used to have to do that all as a Copper.
Now I do nothing more hard that getting a 25 (ish) stone person down and up their own stairs.
(Down is easier).
No, used to have to do that all as a Copper.
Now I do nothing more hard that getting a 25 (ish) stone person down and up their own stairs.
(Down is easier).
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 6:49am Sun 23 Mar 08
DEAR HANNAH, (YOU ARE FEMALE I TAKE IT?)
I NOTICED THAT YOU ENTERED TWO IDENTICAL E-MAILS A FEW MINUTES APART. (SHAKY HAND DARLING?).
THE UPPER CASE JUST MAKES IT EASIER TO TYPE WITH TWO FINGERS!
THATCHERISM?
I KNOW, YOU ARE THE DAUGHTER OF AN OUT OF WORK COAL MINER!
WELL MOVE ON SWEETHEART AND MAYBE SOMEONE WITH A HUMVEE JUST MIGHT STOP AND OFFER YOU A LIFT!
BUT TRY AND STOP YOUR WRISTS DRAGGING ON THE GROUND WHEN YOU WALK! (FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING OF COURSE)
HAVE A GREAT EASTER AND HAPPY DATING.
DEAR HANNAH, (YOU ARE FEMALE I TAKE IT?)
I NOTICED THAT YOU ENTERED TWO IDENTICAL E-MAILS A FEW MINUTES APART. (SHAKY HAND DARLING?).
THE UPPER CASE JUST MAKES IT EASIER TO TYPE WITH TWO FINGERS!
THATCHERISM?
I KNOW, YOU ARE THE DAUGHTER OF AN OUT OF WORK COAL MINER!
WELL MOVE ON SWEETHEART AND MAYBE SOMEONE WITH A HUMVEE JUST MIGHT STOP AND OFFER YOU A LIFT!
BUT TRY AND STOP YOUR WRISTS DRAGGING ON THE GROUND WHEN YOU WALK! (FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING OF COURSE)
HAVE A GREAT EASTER AND HAPPY DATING.
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 7:25am Sun 23 Mar 08
THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THIS STORY READ:
"A FURIOUS TAXI DRIVER VOWS TO KEEP DRIVING DESPITE BEING SUSPENDED"
MADAM IF YOU FIND THAT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND LET ME CONSTRUE: FURIOUS = MAD, VOWS = PROMISES,DESPITE = EVEN THOUGH, SUSPENDED = DEBARRED.
IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER PROBLEMS, CONSULT A DICTIONARY
THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THIS STORY READ:
"A FURIOUS TAXI DRIVER VOWS TO KEEP DRIVING DESPITE BEING SUSPENDED"
MADAM IF YOU FIND THAT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND LET ME CONSTRUE: FURIOUS = MAD, VOWS = PROMISES,DESPITE = EVEN THOUGH, SUSPENDED = DEBARRED.
IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER PROBLEMS, CONSULT A DICTIONARY
Posted by: 2Much, New Forest on 7:51am Sun 23 Mar 08
I think the best solution to this, is to introduce it to new cabbies, and leave the rest alone. I think New Forest taxi drivers have to take a simple English test before being issued a license..the drivers already holding a license do not have to do so...this is fair..not being made to sit in on courses.
I think the best solution to this, is to introduce it to new cabbies, and leave the rest alone. I think New Forest taxi drivers have to take a simple English test before being issued a license..the drivers already holding a license do not have to do so...this is fair..not being made to sit in on courses.
Posted by: bobo, winton on 8:31am Sun 23 Mar 08
THAT WOULD BE THE COMMON SENSE APPROACH BUT THIS IS BRITAIN IN 2008 AND WHY PEOPLE ARE LEAVING IN DROVES BUT AT LEAST LAURIE MARSH LEFT WITH UM
THAT WOULD BE THE COMMON SENSE APPROACH BUT THIS IS BRITAIN IN 2008 AND WHY PEOPLE ARE LEAVING IN DROVES BUT AT LEAST LAURIE MARSH LEFT WITH UM
Posted by: 2Much, New Forest on 8:32am Sun 23 Mar 08
Aye!
Posted by: laurie marsh, australia on 9:53am Sun 23 Mar 08
UM?
I REALISE THAT I MIGHT BE LEADING WITH MY CHIN!
UM?
I REALISE THAT I MIGHT BE LEADING WITH MY CHIN!
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 10:17am Sun 23 Mar 08
[quote][bold]bobo[/bold] wrote:
hey nick
who picks up the drunken scum after midnight when the bus drivers are tucked up safely in bed?[/quote] Its there choice to do the job they can always get a job at tesco. or maybe not as they are not polite they would get the sack.
bobo wrote:
hey nick
who picks up the drunken scum after midnight when the bus drivers are tucked up safely in bed?
Its there choice to do the job they can always get a job at tesco. or maybe not as they are not polite they would get the sack.
Posted by: mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 10:20am Sun 23 Mar 08
Message to ignorant stuborn frank shaw take the test or get out the job, as they say if you cant stand the heat get out the kitchen.Bournemouth taxi drivers are rude and need this test.
Message to ignorant stuborn frank shaw take the test or get out the job, as they say if you cant stand the heat get out the kitchen.Bournemouth taxi drivers are rude and need this test.
Posted by: Hannah, Bournemouth on 10:41am Sun 23 Mar 08
mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 10:20am today
[quote]Bournemouth taxi drivers are rude and need this test[/quote]
If rudeness is the reason for the test then one or two posters on this thread should do it as well! :)
mmmmmmmmmmmm, dorset on 10:20am today
Bournemouth taxi drivers are rude and need this test
If rudeness is the reason for the test then one or two posters on this thread should do it as well! :)
Posted by: Anon, Bournemouth on 11:12am Sun 23 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Nick[/bold] wrote:
I think this is great. [quote]Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.[/quote] Oh please do not get me started! I pity the bus drivers who have to take 70(ish) of the drunken so and so’s. A taxi driver only gets a few. I have seen 3 bus drivers unloading a wheelchair 5 ft from the curb because a taxi driver has parked in bus clearway. Personally I do not think you can get enough training, no matter what profession you are in. Thank heavens the doctors (Surgeon Barbours) still do not bleed us to let the devils out …. [/quote] Nick,you really dont have a clue do you? You have spent your life cosseted in either the police force or the ambulance service, with your subsidised mortgages and car finance, 5 weeks paid holiday a year, and a month off for stress if you experience something "nasty" or maybe a couple of weeks away at one of those nice police convalescent homes tuck away in the country all for free (taxpayers).Nick, when you go on a training course,do you do it in your own time whilst not getting paid? Didnt think so.Every comment or argument you have come up with Nick, I could easily blow out of the way,but I cant be bothered, because you are not interested in listening to "ordinary" people. Thats part of police training isnt it? I'm sorry if you were bullied at school nick, but you really should have got over it by now.
Nick wrote:
I think this is great. Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.
Oh please do not get me started! I pity the bus drivers who have to take 70(ish) of the drunken so and so’s. A taxi driver only gets a few. I have seen 3 bus drivers unloading a wheelchair 5 ft from the curb because a taxi driver has parked in bus clearway. Personally I do not think you can get enough training, no matter what profession you are in. Thank heavens the doctors (Surgeon Barbours) still do not bleed us to let the devils out ….
Nick,you really dont have a clue do you? You have spent your life cosseted in either the police force or the ambulance service, with your subsidised mortgages and car finance, 5 weeks paid holiday a year, and a month off for stress if you experience something "nasty" or maybe a couple of weeks away at one of those nice police convalescent homes tuck away in the country all for free (taxpayers).Nick, when you go on a training course,do you do it in your own time whilst not getting paid? Didnt think so.Every comment or argument you have come up with Nick, I could easily blow out of the way,but I cant be bothered, because you are not interested in listening to "ordinary" people. Thats part of police training isnt it? I'm sorry if you were bullied at school nick, but you really should have got over it by now.
Posted by: Anon, Bournemouth on 11:46am Sun 23 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Boscombe Red[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote: Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.[/quote] Now this is a story thats interesting, please tell more[/quote] I'm sorry, but I couldnt pour it all out to some journalist who isnt bothered about the real plight of real people. But only bothered about scoring brownie points with the editor.
Boscombe Red wrote:
Anon wrote: Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.
Now this is a story thats interesting, please tell more
I'm sorry, but I couldnt pour it all out to some journalist who isnt bothered about the real plight of real people. But only bothered about scoring brownie points with the editor.
Posted by: bobo, winton on 12:02pm Sun 23 Mar 08
Can ASHLEY MILLER tell us something about this corrupt licensing officer it may warrent fraud squad investigation
Can ASHLEY MILLER tell us something about this corrupt licensing officer it may warrent fraud squad investigation
Posted by: Anon, Bournemouth on 12:32pm Sun 23 Mar 08
Its common knowledge, has been for a long time.Its down to the council to come clean, admit it, tell the people of Bournemouth what happened, and trace the drivers who are affected and prosecute them.Trouble is, i think the drivers concerned are all "friends from overseas" so we couldnt possibly do something as un pc as that, could we ?
Its common knowledge, has been for a long time.Its down to the council to come clean, admit it, tell the people of Bournemouth what happened, and trace the drivers who are affected and prosecute them.Trouble is, i think the drivers concerned are all "friends from overseas" so we couldnt possibly do something as un pc as that, could we ?
Posted by: bobo, winton on 12:42pm Sun 23 Mar 08
Maybe a crime reporter with the Echo could investigate it would make pretty spicy story and also explain why the 101 lads are being victimised
Maybe a crime reporter with the Echo could investigate it would make pretty spicy story and also explain why the 101 lads are being victimised
Posted by: Anon, Bournemouth on 1:28pm Sun 23 Mar 08
[quote][bold]bobo[/bold] wrote:
Maybe a crime reporter with the Echo could investigate it would make pretty spicy story and also explain why the 101 lads are being victimised [/quote] Unfortunately, what would the council say? " Sorry, dont know what your talking about"
Thinking about this you know, the btec course was introduced shortly after this scandal came out in the open. Maybe the two things are linked. Maybe thats why the first question you have to fill out on the btec is "what is your N I number." Or am I being too cynical.
bobo wrote:
Maybe a crime reporter with the Echo could investigate it would make pretty spicy story and also explain why the 101 lads are being victimised
Unfortunately, what would the council say? " Sorry, dont know what your talking about"
Thinking about this you know, the btec course was introduced shortly after this scandal came out in the open. Maybe the two things are linked. Maybe thats why the first question you have to fill out on the btec is "what is your N I number." Or am I being too cynical.
Posted by: Ashley Miller, Bournemouth on 2:44pm Sun 23 Mar 08
[quote][bold]bobo[/bold] wrote:
Can ASHLEY MILLER tell us something about this corrupt licensing officer it may warrent fraud squad investigation[/quote] Allegations were made a few years ago about an Officer but an investigation failed to find any proof.
If anyone knows any different then please let me know as I have no further information.
bobo wrote:
Can ASHLEY MILLER tell us something about this corrupt licensing officer it may warrent fraud squad investigation
Allegations were made a few years ago about an Officer but an investigation failed to find any proof.
If anyone knows any different then please let me know as I have no further information.
Posted by: Ashley Miller, Bournemouth on 2:53pm Sun 23 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Anon[/bold] wrote:
Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.[/quote] By all means, go ahead & BLOW THE TAXI TRADE APART as you say.
What point are you trying raise?
Why are you so bitter?
Are you one of the 101 that have been taken off the road because if you are then good, because over 90% of us have given up a few hours of our time to secure our future in the trade.
As you can see, I use my name on the postings why do you go under ANON? Something to hide?
Anon wrote:
Maybe any member of the public who wishes to use a taxi should take a btec on "How To Treat a Taxi Driver Whilst Under The Influence Of Ten Pints Of Stella". They could show their certificate as they enter the taxi. And maybe the council should be tracking down all those drivers who obtained their licence through bunging a currupt licensing officer £500, instead of victimising decent taxi drivers.Get me stirred up, and I will blow the taxi trade apart.
By all means, go ahead & BLOW THE TAXI TRADE APART as you say.
What point are you trying raise?
Why are you so bitter?
Are you one of the 101 that have been taken off the road because if you are then good, because over 90% of us have given up a few hours of our time to secure our future in the trade.
As you can see, I use my name on the postings why do you go under ANON? Something to hide?
Posted by: Ashley Miller, Bournemouth on 3:29pm Sun 23 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Hannah[/bold] wrote:
Ashley Miller, Bournemouth on 2:31pm today Check your driving [bold]license[/bold] ! Your wild and exaggerated claims about me indicate that you are under a lot of pressure over this. I am sorry about that, but getting aggressive and indulging in rude and inaccurate replies just weakens your case. No matter how supportive your mates are, the plain fact is that you are wrong in this particular matter, and depriving over a 100 people of their livelihoods because of a silly shallow course is out of all proportion. And I think that you know it which is why you are so angry. If the people responsible for this get away with it, then the future looks grim for us all. Please confine yourself to the points I raise in future replies and argue the case without becoming so angry and personal. It is not good for you, or the others, to get so worked up about these things. We’ll all be dead in a few decades anyway, so what does it really matter ? [/quote] Hannah
I am not wrong for sticking up for over 90% of my trade because we have done this "silly course" to secure our futures & 101 have not.
Two of the drivers who have already passed the course have held Bournemouth Hackney Licenses since 1963 & proudly boast of their new found knowledge & one of them is in his 80th year!
I am certainly not wound up, in fact I find it all rather amusing how people want the 101 Taxi & Private Hire drivers who have not taken the course to continue driving "unlicensed" & face possible disqualification from the road because as you are probably aware driving a vehicle whilst unlicensed means there is no insurance & thus becomes a Road Traffic Offence.
For the sake of a few hours in the classroom is it really worth losing your livelihood over some daft principle?
None of us wanted to do it but as it was brought in under "fitness of licence" then unfortunately we have had no choice but to get on with it.
There, I said all that without being rude or angry in fact I've been smiling like I have all the way through the other postings!!!
Regards your last paragraph, let us hope that we will be around for quite a few more decades.
Happy Easter Hannah from Ashley XXX
Hannah wrote:
Ashley Miller, Bournemouth on 2:31pm today Check your driving license ! Your wild and exaggerated claims about me indicate that you are under a lot of pressure over this. I am sorry about that, but getting aggressive and indulging in rude and inaccurate replies just weakens your case. No matter how supportive your mates are, the plain fact is that you are wrong in this particular matter, and depriving over a 100 people of their livelihoods because of a silly shallow course is out of all proportion. And I think that you know it which is why you are so angry. If the people responsible for this get away with it, then the future looks grim for us all. Please confine yourself to the points I raise in future replies and argue the case without becoming so angry and personal. It is not good for you, or the others, to get so worked up about these things. We’ll all be dead in a few decades anyway, so what does it really matter ?
Hannah
I am not wrong for sticking up for over 90% of my trade because we have done this "silly course" to secure our futures & 101 have not.
Two of the drivers who have already passed the course have held Bournemouth Hackney Licenses since 1963 & proudly boast of their new found knowledge & one of them is in his 80th year!
I am certainly not wound up, in fact I find it all rather amusing how people want the 101 Taxi & Private Hire drivers who have not taken the course to continue driving "unlicensed" & face possible disqualification from the road because as you are probably aware driving a vehicle whilst unlicensed means there is no insurance & thus becomes a Road Traffic Offence.
For the sake of a few hours in the classroom is it really worth losing your livelihood over some daft principle?
None of us wanted to do it but as it was brought in under "fitness of licence" then unfortunately we have had no choice but to get on with it.
There, I said all that without being rude or angry in fact I've been smiling like I have all the way through the other postings!!!
Regards your last paragraph, let us hope that we will be around for quite a few more decades.
Happy Easter Hannah from Ashley XXX
Posted by: johnx, poole on 5:25pm Sun 23 Mar 08
It is a pity there is no quality standard for the "taxis", especially in Poole. The cars they use are mostly the cheapest junk they can pack a few passengers into. There is no comaparison with the old fashioned black cab. In most of the rest of the world at least they standardise on a Mercedes with some space in the back.
