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‘Pot shots’ men spark major security alert
AIR pistol enthusiasts using plant pots on their balcony for target practice sparked a major police operation in Bournemouth.
Armed and uniformed officers were sent to Christchurch Road and the surrounding area sealed off following reports that shots were being fired from the roof of a nearby flat block.
Details of the lunchtime incident last Sunday have just been released by Dorset Police.
An armed response team was scrambled at 1.36pm after police received a call saying a man was firing shots from the roof of a building.
Christchurch Road, Knyveton Road and Annerley Road were closed off for just over an hour while officers searched the area for clues and spoke to local residents.
A police spokesman said that when police knocked on one door, two men produced air weapons.
He said: "It turned out that they had been firing at targets on plant pots on their balcony.
"When we receive reports of shots being fired we have to take it seriously as lives could be in danger.
"About 16 officers were sent to the scene. It turned out to be a false alarm."
The men, aged 32 and 34, were given "words of advice" but no arrests were made and the roads were re-opened.
A local resident said: "Three adjoining flat blocks were cordoned off by police and families were unable to get into their properties.
"There were lots of armed officers involved. I was out at the time.
"When I returned home all the neighbours were talking about what had happened. It created quite a stir on a Sunday lunchtime."
4:00pm Wednesday 21st May 2008
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CommentPosted by: JC, Under the Sea on 4:18pm Wed 21 May 08
Oh for god's sakes, can people not fire weapons off their own balconies now without being hassled by the police!?
This country's going to hell in a handcart.
Oh for god's sakes, can people not fire weapons off their own balconies now without being hassled by the police!?
This country's going to hell in a handcart.
Posted by: oscar99, bournemouth on 4:21pm Wed 21 May 08
what if it had been a real gun mmmm and it was in your neck off the wood dont think you would be so flippent would you
what if it had been a real gun mmmm and it was in your neck off the wood dont think you would be so flippent would you
Posted by: oscar99, bournemouth on 4:23pm Wed 21 May 08
what if it had been a real gun mmmm and it was in your neck off the wood dont think you would be so flippent would you
what if it had been a real gun mmmm and it was in your neck off the wood dont think you would be so flippent would you
Posted by: Jayteer, Bournemouth on 5:07pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]JC[/bold] wrote:
Oh for god's sakes, can people not fire weapons off their own balconies now without being hassled by the police!? This country's going to hell in a handcart.[/quote] It certainly is going to hell in a handcart- Because so many people(like you) think that because its behind your own closed doors its ok to fire an air gun.
What if it hadnt been an air gun? What if it was a real gun, and they had accidentally aimed it at a living person down below when turning round or something?
At a time when so many young people are dying at the hands of knifes and guns, i applaude the police for taking these drastics steps- If it was a real incident and someone had gotten killed(god forbid) you JC would have been the first poster on here to complain the police did nothing to stop the bloodshed.
Well done Bournemouth Police- A safe result with noone hurt.
JC wrote:
Oh for god's sakes, can people not fire weapons off their own balconies now without being hassled by the police!? This country's going to hell in a handcart.
It certainly is going to hell in a handcart- Because so many people(like you) think that because its behind your own closed doors its ok to fire an air gun.
What if it hadnt been an air gun? What if it was a real gun, and they had accidentally aimed it at a living person down below when turning round or something?
At a time when so many young people are dying at the hands of knifes and guns, i applaude the police for taking these drastics steps- If it was a real incident and someone had gotten killed(god forbid) you JC would have been the first poster on here to complain the police did nothing to stop the bloodshed.
Well done Bournemouth Police- A safe result with noone hurt.
Posted by: Jayteer, Bournemouth on 5:09pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]JC[/bold] wrote:
Oh for god's sakes, can people not fire weapons off their own balconies now without being hassled by the police!? This country's going to hell in a handcart.[/quote] It certainly is going to hell in a handcart- Because so many people(like you) think that because its behind your own closed doors its ok to fire an air gun.
What if it hadnt been an air gun? What if it was a real gun, and they had accidentally aimed it at a living person down below when turning round or something?
At a time when so many young people are dying at the hands of knifes and guns, i applaude the police for taking these drastics steps- If it was a real incident and someone had gotten killed(god forbid) you JC would have been the first poster on here to complain the police did nothing to stop the bloodshed.
Well done Bournemouth Police- A safe result with noone hurt.
JC wrote:
Oh for god's sakes, can people not fire weapons off their own balconies now without being hassled by the police!? This country's going to hell in a handcart.
It certainly is going to hell in a handcart- Because so many people(like you) think that because its behind your own closed doors its ok to fire an air gun.
What if it hadnt been an air gun? What if it was a real gun, and they had accidentally aimed it at a living person down below when turning round or something?
At a time when so many young people are dying at the hands of knifes and guns, i applaude the police for taking these drastics steps- If it was a real incident and someone had gotten killed(god forbid) you JC would have been the first poster on here to complain the police did nothing to stop the bloodshed.
Well done Bournemouth Police- A safe result with noone hurt.
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 5:40pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]JC[/bold] wrote:
Oh for god's sakes, can people not fire weapons off their own balconies now without being hassled by the police!?
This country's going to hell in a handcart.[/quote] I see you start the comments of with the same idiotic response as you normally do. You the type of person who would scream like mad for the Police if this was happening on your doorstep, and then sue them for not being their within 5 minutes.
Personally I would have seen these men locked up for a time, and then charged with the misuse of firearms, regardless of whether it is an air gun or not. They also can kill, or cause serious injury.
Well done to the Police for the way this was handled.
JC wrote:
Oh for god's sakes, can people not fire weapons off their own balconies now without being hassled by the police!?
This country's going to hell in a handcart.
I see you start the comments of with the same idiotic response as you normally do. You the type of person who would scream like mad for the Police if this was happening on your doorstep, and then sue them for not being their within 5 minutes.
Personally I would have seen these men locked up for a time, and then charged with the misuse of firearms, regardless of whether it is an air gun or not. They also can kill, or cause serious injury.
Well done to the Police for the way this was handled.
Posted by: Tim M, usa on 5:53pm Wed 21 May 08
Could it be that JC was loosing off a few rounds of irony? A couple of quid says he was.
Could it be that JC was loosing off a few rounds of irony? A couple of quid says he was.
Posted by: Charlie on 6:51pm Wed 21 May 08
In which direction were they firing? Towards the property or out from the balcony? If towards surely there's danger of ricoche. If out from the balcony, then action would most definitey be justified.
In which direction were they firing? Towards the property or out from the balcony? If towards surely there's danger of ricoche. If out from the balcony, then action would most definitey be justified.
Posted by: karateman1964, Poole Dorset on 6:58pm Wed 21 May 08
If people carry on firing air rifles in built up areas then it could lead to a complete ban
If people carry on firing air rifles in built up areas then it could lead to a complete ban
Posted by: JC, Under the Sea on 8:33am Thu 22 May 08
Oscar99, Jayteer & Christopher -
WHAT IF it hadn't been an air gun?
WHAT IF it had been a real gun?
WHAT IF they accidentally aimed it at a living (not dead?) person?
WHAT IF it had been a bazooka?
WHAT IF they were in a Sherman tank?
WHAT IF they'd had their finger on the button for certain nuclear annihilation?
OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!?!!11
Get a grip.
Nearly every day there's an article in the Echo with comments criticising the police for failing to act in a certain way, or lambasting them for doing something that's worthwhile yet unpopular.
Apart from failing to pick up on the obvious irony of my original post (thank you Tim M), you've also shown yourselves to be party to the increasing level of hysteria prevalent in today's society. Perhaps you'd all do well to take five minutes each day to chill out and remind yourselves that the world's not going to end any time soon, we're all going to be just fine. You might find yourselves enjoying life just that little bit more...
Oscar99, Jayteer & Christopher -
WHAT IF it hadn't been an air gun?
WHAT IF it had been a real gun?
WHAT IF they accidentally aimed it at a living (not dead?) person?
WHAT IF it had been a bazooka?
WHAT IF they were in a Sherman tank?
WHAT IF they'd had their finger on the button for certain nuclear annihilation?
OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!?!!11
Get a grip.
Nearly every day there's an article in the Echo with comments criticising the police for failing to act in a certain way, or lambasting them for doing something that's worthwhile yet unpopular.
Apart from failing to pick up on the obvious irony of my original post (thank you Tim M), you've also shown yourselves to be party to the increasing level of hysteria prevalent in today's society. Perhaps you'd all do well to take five minutes each day to chill out and remind yourselves that the world's not going to end any time soon, we're all going to be just fine. You might find yourselves enjoying life just that little bit more...
Posted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 10:41am Thu 22 May 08
[quote][bold]JC[/bold] wrote:
Oscar99, Jayteer & Christopher - WHAT IF it hadn't been an air gun? WHAT IF it had been a real gun? WHAT IF they accidentally aimed it at a living (not dead?) person? WHAT IF it had been a bazooka? WHAT IF they were in a Sherman tank? WHAT IF they'd had their finger on the button for certain nuclear annihilation? OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!?!!11 Get a grip. Nearly every day there's an article in the Echo with comments criticising the police for failing to act in a certain way, or lambasting them for doing something that's worthwhile yet unpopular. Apart from failing to pick up on the obvious irony of my original post (thank you Tim M), you've also shown yourselves to be party to the increasing level of hysteria prevalent in today's society. Perhaps you'd all do well to take five minutes each day to chill out and remind yourselves that the world's not going to end any time soon, we're all going to be just fine. You might find yourselves enjoying life just that little bit more...[/quote] Well done JLC you got em all hot under the collar again, I don't believe for one minute if this happened to JLC he would be the first one to complain so don't fall for his c**p
JC wrote:
Oscar99, Jayteer & Christopher - WHAT IF it hadn't been an air gun? WHAT IF it had been a real gun? WHAT IF they accidentally aimed it at a living (not dead?) person? WHAT IF it had been a bazooka? WHAT IF they were in a Sherman tank? WHAT IF they'd had their finger on the button for certain nuclear annihilation? OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!?!!11 Get a grip. Nearly every day there's an article in the Echo with comments criticising the police for failing to act in a certain way, or lambasting them for doing something that's worthwhile yet unpopular. Apart from failing to pick up on the obvious irony of my original post (thank you Tim M), you've also shown yourselves to be party to the increasing level of hysteria prevalent in today's society. Perhaps you'd all do well to take five minutes each day to chill out and remind yourselves that the world's not going to end any time soon, we're all going to be just fine. You might find yourselves enjoying life just that little bit more...
Well done JLC you got em all hot under the collar again, I don't believe for one minute if this happened to JLC he would be the first one to complain so don't fall for his c**p
Posted by: Jerry, poole, dorset on 10:41am Thu 22 May 08
[quote][bold]karateman1964[/bold] wrote:
If people carry on firing air rifles in built up areas then it could lead to a complete ban[/quote] Point 1: It was air PISTOLS being used.
Point 2: It was on private property, not a public place.
However, the Law dictates that:[bold] "It is an offence to fire an airgun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, If by doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured, interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent the highway".[/bold]
karateman1964 wrote:
If people carry on firing air rifles in built up areas then it could lead to a complete ban
Point 1: It was air PISTOLS being used.
Point 2: It was on private property, not a public place.
However, the Law dictates that:
"It is an offence to fire an airgun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, If by doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured, interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent the highway". Posted by: Jayteer, Bournemouth on 11:06am Thu 22 May 08
[quote][bold]JC[/bold] wrote:
Oscar99, Jayteer & Christopher - WHAT IF it hadn't been an air gun? WHAT IF it had been a real gun? WHAT IF they accidentally aimed it at a living (not dead?) person? WHAT IF it had been a bazooka? WHAT IF they were in a Sherman tank? WHAT IF they'd had their finger on the button for certain nuclear annihilation? OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!?!!11 Get a grip. Nearly every day there's an article in the Echo with comments criticising the police for failing to act in a certain way, or lambasting them for doing something that's worthwhile yet unpopular. Apart from failing to pick up on the obvious irony of my original post (thank you Tim M), you've also shown yourselves to be party to the increasing level of hysteria prevalent in today's society. Perhaps you'd all do well to take five minutes each day to chill out and remind yourselves that the world's not going to end any time soon, we're all going to be just fine. You might find yourselves enjoying life just that little bit more...[/quote] JC:
I Wouldnt call being over cautious 'hysteria'.Would it have been hysteria had it turned out the air gun shooters were playing with REAL guns and bullets? What if you had been walking past a shop down below and got a bullet in the neck? or one of your loved ones?Would it be hysteria then?
Bottom line: Better to be safe than sorry.
I enjoy my life fine- Because i dodge lifes narrow mindedness and idiocy, and look at things logically.
Is it any wonder the UK is under a gun and crime epidemic when people like you are so apathetic to the efforts of police to curb these problems?
BANG BANG- (JC) Its ok, dont call the police, that person meant to fall off the balcony and land on the road. And its fake blood-Its all ok.
Honestly, some people just annoy the living hell out of me.
JC wrote:
Oscar99, Jayteer & Christopher - WHAT IF it hadn't been an air gun? WHAT IF it had been a real gun? WHAT IF they accidentally aimed it at a living (not dead?) person? WHAT IF it had been a bazooka? WHAT IF they were in a Sherman tank? WHAT IF they'd had their finger on the button for certain nuclear annihilation? OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!?!!11 Get a grip. Nearly every day there's an article in the Echo with comments criticising the police for failing to act in a certain way, or lambasting them for doing something that's worthwhile yet unpopular. Apart from failing to pick up on the obvious irony of my original post (thank you Tim M), you've also shown yourselves to be party to the increasing level of hysteria prevalent in today's society. Perhaps you'd all do well to take five minutes each day to chill out and remind yourselves that the world's not going to end any time soon, we're all going to be just fine. You might find yourselves enjoying life just that little bit more...
JC:
I Wouldnt call being over cautious 'hysteria'.Would it have been hysteria had it turned out the air gun shooters were playing with REAL guns and bullets? What if you had been walking past a shop down below and got a bullet in the neck? or one of your loved ones?Would it be hysteria then?
Bottom line: Better to be safe than sorry.
I enjoy my life fine- Because i dodge lifes narrow mindedness and idiocy, and look at things logically.
Is it any wonder the UK is under a gun and crime epidemic when people like you are so apathetic to the efforts of police to curb these problems?
BANG BANG- (JC) Its ok, dont call the police, that person meant to fall off the balcony and land on the road. And its fake blood-Its all ok.
Honestly, some people just annoy the living hell out of me.
Posted by: Jayteer, Bournemouth on 11:08am Thu 22 May 08
[quote][bold]JC[/bold] wrote:
Oscar99, Jayteer & Christopher - WHAT IF it hadn't been an air gun? WHAT IF it had been a real gun? WHAT IF they accidentally aimed it at a living (not dead?) person? WHAT IF it had been a bazooka? WHAT IF they were in a Sherman tank? WHAT IF they'd had their finger on the button for certain nuclear annihilation? OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!?!!11 Get a grip. Nearly every day there's an article in the Echo with comments criticising the police for failing to act in a certain way, or lambasting them for doing something that's worthwhile yet unpopular. Apart from failing to pick up on the obvious irony of my original post (thank you Tim M), you've also shown yourselves to be party to the increasing level of hysteria prevalent in today's society. Perhaps you'd all do well to take five minutes each day to chill out and remind yourselves that the world's not going to end any time soon, we're all going to be just fine. You might find yourselves enjoying life just that little bit more...[/quote] JC:
I Wouldnt call being over cautious 'hysteria'.Would it have been hysteria had it turned out the air gun shooters were playing with REAL guns and bullets? What if you had been walking past a shop down below and got a bullet in the neck? or one of your loved ones?Would it be hysteria then?
Bottom line: Better to be safe than sorry.
I enjoy my life fine- Because i dodge lifes narrow mindedness and idiocy, and look at things logically.
Is it any wonder the UK is under a gun and crime epidemic when people like you are so apathetic to the efforts of police to curb these problems?
BANG BANG- (JC) Its ok, dont call the police, that person meant to fall off the balcony and land on the road. And its fake blood-Its all ok.
Honestly, some people just annoy the living hell out of me.
JC wrote:
Oscar99, Jayteer & Christopher - WHAT IF it hadn't been an air gun? WHAT IF it had been a real gun? WHAT IF they accidentally aimed it at a living (not dead?) person? WHAT IF it had been a bazooka? WHAT IF they were in a Sherman tank? WHAT IF they'd had their finger on the button for certain nuclear annihilation? OH MY GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!?!!11 Get a grip. Nearly every day there's an article in the Echo with comments criticising the police for failing to act in a certain way, or lambasting them for doing something that's worthwhile yet unpopular. Apart from failing to pick up on the obvious irony of my original post (thank you Tim M), you've also shown yourselves to be party to the increasing level of hysteria prevalent in today's society. Perhaps you'd all do well to take five minutes each day to chill out and remind yourselves that the world's not going to end any time soon, we're all going to be just fine. You might find yourselves enjoying life just that little bit more...
JC:
I Wouldnt call being over cautious 'hysteria'.Would it have been hysteria had it turned out the air gun shooters were playing with REAL guns and bullets? What if you had been walking past a shop down below and got a bullet in the neck? or one of your loved ones?Would it be hysteria then?
Bottom line: Better to be safe than sorry.
I enjoy my life fine- Because i dodge lifes narrow mindedness and idiocy, and look at things logically.
Is it any wonder the UK is under a gun and crime epidemic when people like you are so apathetic to the efforts of police to curb these problems?
BANG BANG- (JC) Its ok, dont call the police, that person meant to fall off the balcony and land on the road. And its fake blood-Its all ok.
Honestly, some people just annoy the living hell out of me.
Posted by: JC, Under the Sea on 12:10pm Thu 22 May 08
[quote]Is it any wonder the UK is under a gun and crime epidemic when people like you are so apathetic to the efforts of police to curb these problems?[/quote]
May I suggest you look up the word "irony" in a dictionary?
[quote]i dodge lifes narrow mindedness and idiocy[/quote]
That must be tricky for you - my friend's dog sometimes tries to keep away from it's own tail... it never manages to though.
Is it any wonder the UK is under a gun and crime epidemic when people like you are so apathetic to the efforts of police to curb these problems?
May I suggest you look up the word "irony" in a dictionary?
i dodge lifes narrow mindedness and idiocy
That must be tricky for you - my friend's dog sometimes tries to keep away from it's own tail... it never manages to though.
Posted by: Jerry, poole, dorset on 12:46pm Thu 22 May 08
Further to my previous: [quote]It is an offence to fire an airgun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, If by doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured, interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent the highway[/quote] If someone is injured, no argument. If someone is "interrupted" is a bit more vague. It could mean someone is prevented from passing because they thought that there was a dander of being hit by pellets, or were afraid of what might happen, or were alarmed.
The last bit however, "endangered". If the pellets leave the property and pass near to anyone, then they are "endangered".
So, in simple terms, as long as no-one is injured, alarmed or endangered, it is quite permissible to use an airgun in your garden or on your roof, even within 50' of the centre of the highway, as long as you take the above into account.
Just be careful!
Further to my previous:
It is an offence to fire an airgun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, If by doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured, interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent the highway
If someone is injured, no argument. If someone is "interrupted" is a bit more vague. It could mean someone is prevented from passing because they thought that there was a dander of being hit by pellets, or were afraid of what might happen, or were alarmed.
The last bit however, "endangered". If the pellets leave the property and pass near to anyone, then they are "endangered".
So, in simple terms, as long as no-one is injured, alarmed or endangered, it is quite permissible to use an airgun in your garden or on your roof, even within 50' of the centre of the highway, as long as you take the above into account.
Just be careful!
Posted by: vote-them-out, Dorchester on 1:31pm Thu 22 May 08
Spent the evening shooting rabbits as I've run out of plant pots. Very tasty they are too.
Spent the evening shooting rabbits as I've run out of plant pots. Very tasty they are too.
Posted by: Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West on 1:38pm Thu 22 May 08
Come on my friends, we should all know by now that JC visits this forum just to wind others up, and set alternative arguments going. Think of him as one of those air pellets, once fired it becomes useless.
How he can represent the fact that it is OK for these people to fire away at will. A pellet can kill, and it has done in the past. If this sort of thing is not clamped on, then we have no hope of curtailing in anyway the gun culture that is prevalent in this country, and obviously in our town.
The Police worked well in bringing this incident to an end safe and sound. But as we know, he could have been a different story. If a stand off had happened these men could have been blown away.
So whether it is a Sunday afternoon prank, or a deliberate shooting incident, it is better stopped, than allowed to go on.
Come on my friends, we should all know by now that JC visits this forum just to wind others up, and set alternative arguments going. Think of him as one of those air pellets, once fired it becomes useless.
How he can represent the fact that it is OK for these people to fire away at will. A pellet can kill, and it has done in the past. If this sort of thing is not clamped on, then we have no hope of curtailing in anyway the gun culture that is prevalent in this country, and obviously in our town.
The Police worked well in bringing this incident to an end safe and sound. But as we know, he could have been a different story. If a stand off had happened these men could have been blown away.
So whether it is a Sunday afternoon prank, or a deliberate shooting incident, it is better stopped, than allowed to go on.
Posted by: michael carpenter, BOSCOMBE on 1:44pm Thu 22 May 08
I WONDER HOW MANY POLICE WOULD HAVE TURNED UP IF THE POLICE CONVENTION WAS NOT IN TOWN. ALSO YOU CANT FIND AN OFFICER IN BOSCOMBE, THE TOWNS DRUNKS ARE HAVING A FIELD DAYIN ALL PARTS OF BOSCOMBE.
I WONDER HOW MANY POLICE WOULD HAVE TURNED UP IF THE POLICE CONVENTION WAS NOT IN TOWN. ALSO YOU CANT FIND AN OFFICER IN BOSCOMBE, THE TOWNS DRUNKS ARE HAVING A FIELD DAYIN ALL PARTS OF BOSCOMBE.
Posted by: snoff, Poole on 2:58pm Thu 22 May 08
[quote][bold]michael carpenter[/bold] wrote:
I WONDER HOW MANY POLICE WOULD HAVE TURNED UP IF THE POLICE CONVENTION WAS NOT IN TOWN. ALSO YOU CANT FIND AN OFFICER IN BOSCOMBE, THE TOWNS DRUNKS ARE HAVING A FIELD DAYIN ALL PARTS OF BOSCOMBE. [/quote] If these drunks are having a 'field day' as you describe in Boscombe, is this some kind of event for locals to attend like a fete, and if so do they have a license?? If not, I say hunt the drunks down with air rifles! That'll teach em!
michael carpenter wrote:
I WONDER HOW MANY POLICE WOULD HAVE TURNED UP IF THE POLICE CONVENTION WAS NOT IN TOWN. ALSO YOU CANT FIND AN OFFICER IN BOSCOMBE, THE TOWNS DRUNKS ARE HAVING A FIELD DAYIN ALL PARTS OF BOSCOMBE.
If these drunks are having a 'field day' as you describe in Boscombe, is this some kind of event for locals to attend like a fete, and if so do they have a license?? If not, I say hunt the drunks down with air rifles! That'll teach em!
Posted by: snoff, Poole on 3:00pm Thu 22 May 08
[quote][bold]JC[/bold] wrote:
Oh for god's sakes, can people not fire weapons off their own balconies now without being hassled by the police!? This country's going to hell in a handcart.[/quote] My, the irony was certainly lost on some peeps! bring on the next 'story'!!!!
Think I will go on the soton website for some real laughs..
JC wrote:
Oh for god's sakes, can people not fire weapons off their own balconies now without being hassled by the police!? This country's going to hell in a handcart.
My, the irony was certainly lost on some peeps! bring on the next 'story'!!!!
Think I will go on the soton website for some real laughs..
Posted by: davey, bournemouth on 3:13pm Thu 22 May 08
The kids next door often play with toys guns, because old people with nothing better to do do not live near me we do not have trouble with the police turning up wasting thousands of pounds!
The kids next door often play with toys guns, because old people with nothing better to do do not live near me we do not have trouble with the police turning up wasting thousands of pounds!
Posted by: karateman1964, Poole Dorset on 7:14pm Thu 22 May 08
[quote][bold]Jerry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]karateman1964[/bold] wrote: If people carry on firing air rifles in built up areas then it could lead to a complete ban[/quote] Point 1: It was air PISTOLS being used. Point 2: It was on private property, not a public place. However, the Law dictates that:[bold] "It is an offence to fire an airgun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, If by doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured, interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent the highway".[/bold] [/quote] stop being so picky it could have been an air pistol or an air rifle if its fired in public it makes no diference...when they are banned i wont be bothered ...
Jerry wrote:
karateman1964 wrote: If people carry on firing air rifles in built up areas then it could lead to a complete ban
Point 1: It was air PISTOLS being used. Point 2: It was on private property, not a public place. However, the Law dictates that: "It is an offence to fire an airgun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, If by doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured, interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent the highway".
stop being so picky it could have been an air pistol or an air rifle if its fired in public it makes no diference...when they are banned i wont be bothered ...
Posted by: Jerry, poole, dorset on 11:18am Fri 23 May 08
[quote][bold]karateman1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Jerry[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]karateman1964[/bold] wrote: If people carry on firing air rifles in built up areas then it could lead to a complete ban[/quote] Point 1: It was air PISTOLS being used. Point 2: It was on private property, not a public place. However, the Law dictates that:[bold] "It is an offence to fire an airgun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, If by doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured, interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent the highway".[/bold] [/quote] stop being so picky it could have been an air pistol or an air rifle if its fired in public it makes no diference...when they are banned i wont be bothered ...[/quote] Air pistols have a much lower legal power limit than that of an air rifle, (6 foot pounds force, as opposed to 12 foot pounds force for an air rifle), and therefore the risk of damage at a distance is less. Quite simply, the pellets travel at a lower velocity and travel less distance.
The main point that I was making was that the air PISTOLS in this report were fired on private property. The Police that investigated obviously concluded that NO OFFENCE had been commited under the Law, as stated in my post.
If they are banned, then so be it. However, look at the ban on handguns that was introduced a few years ago in order to prevent "Gun Crime". Innicent, licensed, firearms users had their sport taken away. Gun dealers went out of business and England can now no longer compete in International events as the teams cannot practice at home.
And now handgun-related gun crime is at an all-time high.
Did the ban on hand guns work to reduce crime/injury/deaths? NO! Criminals will still acquire them and use them.
karateman1964 wrote:
Jerry wrote: karateman1964 wrote: If people carry on firing air rifles in built up areas then it could lead to a complete ban
Point 1: It was air PISTOLS being used. Point 2: It was on private property, not a public place. However, the Law dictates that: "It is an offence to fire an airgun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, If by doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured, interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent the highway".
stop being so picky it could have been an air pistol or an air rifle if its fired in public it makes no diference...when they are banned i wont be bothered ...
Air pistols have a much lower legal power limit than that of an air rifle, (6 foot pounds force, as opposed to 12 foot pounds force for an air rifle), and therefore the risk of damage at a distance is less. Quite simply, the pellets travel at a lower velocity and travel less distance.
The main point that I was making was that the air PISTOLS in this report were fired on private property. The Police that investigated obviously concluded that NO OFFENCE had been commited under the Law, as stated in my post.
If they are banned, then so be it. However, look at the ban on handguns that was introduced a few years ago in order to prevent "Gun Crime". Innicent, licensed, firearms users had their sport taken away. Gun dealers went out of business and England can now no longer compete in International events as the teams cannot practice at home.
And now handgun-related gun crime is at an all-time high.
Did the ban on hand guns work to reduce crime/injury/deaths? NO! Criminals will still acquire them and use them.
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